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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Aus_Snow" data-source="post: 3241958" data-attributes="member: 29112">. . .No, never mind. Ditto for the rest of those.Well, to begin with, what I actually thought you were originally referring to was spellcasting-focused PrCs *wherein* you must give up more than three levels of spellcasting, not *wherein and/or for which*. My mistake, arguably. Either way, do you honestly believe that - for example - a rogue/caster hybrid shouldn't have to give up any spellcasting levels? Or even, less than the arcane trickster demands?The eldritch knight - should they not, either?And so on. Because, to me, these PrCs should have to give up something to gain the exatrordinary amounts of things they do. In fact, more than they must at present. As I have said before.What, next you will tell me that d4 HD for a purely spellcasting PrC is a balancing factor, a "weakness". . .? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> Nope, I don't buy this line.Really. Then why print them at all, as has been done throughout various splatbooks and elsewhere? If they are so underpowered, perhaps it's that the gish archetype is itself "weaker", much as the Bard is "weaker", a common subjective appraisal of the generalist, in general.It would help if you took the time to read that to which you are responding. I very specifically referred to *having more overall power*. I fail to see how that could reasonably have been misinterpreted as meaning "better at their specialty".Actually, I love PrCs. They were (IMO) a great idea, and I like many of the concepts, and in fact many of the game mechanic designs that I've encountered and - post-tinkering - used. That people find what to them appear to be balance issues in D&D should - I'd have thought - come as no surprise to almost any player or DM. After all, I am hardly the only person to have expressed such a view, IRL or on forums - wherever.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused    :confused:"  data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> Uh, I was only kidding. Hence the smiley that I chose. It was actually an unintended phrasing at first, then I decided to keep it, but make it clear that I was just being a bit daft. Or something. Eh, never mind. I meant no offense by it, suffice to say.</blockquote>

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