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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Arial Black" data-source="post: 6961790" data-attributes="member: 6799649">Not by the short rest rules in the PHB. I'm unfamiliar with the variant you are using, but there are two things to note about the PHB rules:-* although they allow you to do stuff like eating/bandaging to occur during the short rest without such activity negating the rest, they do not actually require any of these things to occur during that rest* conceptually, we have always hand-waved such mundane activities since the hobby started. We never required players to tell the DM exactly when we swigged from our canteen, had a bite of the beef jerky, or spent 60 seconds applying a bandage. 5E doesn't suddenly expect us to do so!The problem with the 'RAW' you describe is that, instead of making sense like the PHB rule and instead of hand-waving the mundanity like the PHB rule, it enforces the absurd. What, a bandage applied ASAP doesn't work but one applied a few hours later (when we have our Official Short Rest) does? Now, eating between official rests doesn't count?And even that is ignoring the absurdity of requiring bandages in order to get your breath back! Hit points are not meat in D&D.We largely agree here. Yes, the bandages (if they are needed) do have to be applied, but not necessarily in the Officially Designated Hour. The point is that even if they are applied that you only get to spend hit dice if you've done nothing stressful for an hour.Second, yes we can and should hand-wave bandaging and eating in the same way we always have, in the same way we hand-wave urinating/shaving. We know our PCs do this stuff; it's not interesting to role-play out (unless something is actively messing with your ability to do any of these things, like having enough water to cross a desert).Exactly. If the party happen to be lounging in a library, eating bonbons and sipping lemonade for an hour, then they've had a short rest whether they pre-announced it or not.It's not the announcing of a short rest which gives the benefits, nor is it the intention to rest for an hour; it's actually having spent an hour resting already that gives the benefit. Therefore, retro-active announcement of having just had a short rest makes more sense than saying that you are going to have a short rest, because that might be interrupted while you know for a fact that you were not interrupted in the previous hour (because you've already experienced it).If I ever were playing in a campaign where the DM required medkit charges to be spent to use my own hit dice, I'd apply the bandages (and make sure I mentioned that I'm doing this) and use up a charge as and when I got a moment to do so, Official Short Rest or not. Then, at the end of the first uninterrupted hour of rest, I'd spend my hit dice.A DM would have to be losing his marbles to deny the spending of hit dice on the grounds that the bandages were applied too soon. Do we really want PCs bleeding all over the campaign world just to satisfy an absurd meta-game?If a DM were foolish enough to not hand-wave eating/drinking/urinating/bandaging/shaving, the only effect that would have is for the players to regurgitate a pre-written list of 'standard' stuff they do, which will bog down game-play without making the game better in any way.Thankfully, the actual PHB RAW does not require this.</blockquote>

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