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<blockquote data-quote="Charlaquin" data-source="post: 7800902" data-attributes="member: 6779196">Not really, though. If you attack twice, you get to make two d20 rolls, adding your attack mod to each. For each of them that hits, you do your weapon’s damage to the target. If you attempt to shove the target prone with your first attack and attack it with your second, you first make a contested Athletics check. If you succeed, you get to make two d20 rolls, adding your attack mod to each. If either or both hit, you do your weapon’s damage to the target. If you fail the contest, you only get to make one such d20 roll.So, best case scenario with the shove, you get the same chances of hitting with a lower maximum possible damage. Worst case, you have a lower chance of hitting and a lower maximum possible damage. In a white room duel, making two attacks is always better. It is only worth trying to shove the opponent down if you have three attacks, or if you have allies that can attack the target before it gets back up.I’m not sure what you mean by this, could you try rephrasing?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Charlaquin, post: 7800902, member: 6779196"] Not really, though. If you attack twice, you get to make two d20 rolls, adding your attack mod to each. For each of them that hits, you do your weapon’s damage to the target. If you attempt to shove the target prone with your first attack and attack it with your second, you first make a contested Athletics check. If you succeed, you get to make two d20 rolls, adding your attack mod to each. If either or both hit, you do your weapon’s damage to the target. If you fail the contest, you only get to make one such d20 roll. So, best case scenario with the shove, you get the same chances of hitting with a lower maximum possible damage. Worst case, you have a lower chance of hitting and a lower maximum possible damage. In a white room duel, making two attacks is always better. It is only worth trying to shove the opponent down if you have three attacks, or if you have allies that can attack the target before it gets back up. I’m not sure what you mean by this, could you try rephrasing? [/QUOTE]

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