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<blockquote data-quote="Janx" data-source="post: 5746223" data-attributes="member: 8835">the drug addict one was meant as an extreme case.&nbsp; and I agree, might be a wisdom problem.&nbsp; But then we can make the same case for &quot;wise&quot; people doing &quot;unwise&quot; things.Growing up, I had one friend who always thought of himself as smart.&nbsp; His parents thought he a genius.&nbsp; But he was in remedial math, sucked at spelling and language.&nbsp; Loved reading and RPGs.&nbsp; So clearly, the guy wasn't stupid.&nbsp; But as an overall package, he was not actually as functionally effective as he thought he was.&nbsp; Now I can certainly attribute some of his flaws to a lower wisdom, but as someone who knew him, I assert that he truly believed he was smarter than some indicators contradicted.And that's a scenario that can justify a low actual stat, but the person believing (having higher confidence) that it is higher than that.&nbsp; A form of false confidence.I suspect you're always going to have bleed-over, where a player's actual ability (or lack thereof) is going to contradict the stat.&nbsp; That can happen for a smart player with a dumb PC, or a dumb player and a smart PC.If the GM is consistent in performing skill checks against the stat to minimize inflation of success for the smarter player, that'll probably nip that in the bud (and correctly protray the PC as being over-confident).&nbsp; For a dumb player, I think that'll work itself out as they get themselves kiled (and is thus a self-correcting issue).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Janx, post: 5746223, member: 8835"] the drug addict one was meant as an extreme case. and I agree, might be a wisdom problem. But then we can make the same case for "wise" people doing "unwise" things. Growing up, I had one friend who always thought of himself as smart. His parents thought he a genius. But he was in remedial math, sucked at spelling and language. Loved reading and RPGs. So clearly, the guy wasn't stupid. But as an overall package, he was not actually as functionally effective as he thought he was. Now I can certainly attribute some of his flaws to a lower wisdom, but as someone who knew him, I assert that he truly believed he was smarter than some indicators contradicted. And that's a scenario that can justify a low actual stat, but the person believing (having higher confidence) that it is higher than that. A form of false confidence. I suspect you're always going to have bleed-over, where a player's actual ability (or lack thereof) is going to contradict the stat. That can happen for a smart player with a dumb PC, or a dumb player and a smart PC. If the GM is consistent in performing skill checks against the stat to minimize inflation of success for the smarter player, that'll probably nip that in the bud (and correctly protray the PC as being over-confident). For a dumb player, I think that'll work itself out as they get themselves kiled (and is thus a self-correcting issue). [/QUOTE]

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