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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Haltherrion" data-source="post: 5110973" data-attributes="member: 18253">It varies by players but it has been my experience for some time. I can ignore, keep looking for new players, or adapt to it. I did ignore it early on and it led to less entertaining games. I like my gaming group, they are good friends so that leaves working with what I have. As for referee attitude, one could puzzle at all styles of refereeing. Where, for instance, does it say the referee cannot help drive the story? Why leave the success of something you, the referee, might spend hours of out of game time on entirely in the hands of the players when with a little judicious intervention you can turn your game from a pleasant way to pass the time with perhaps occasional boring stretches when the players are casting about for something to do to a memorable campaign that players find as entertaining as their other weekend entertainment choices? It's easy enough to toss stones at different styles. Instead, I advocate refs be open about the spectruum of options and determine what works best for their current campaign concept and game group. It isn't one style-fits-all, different situations can call for different responses.</blockquote>