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<blockquote data-quote="Haltherrion" data-source="post: 5111137" data-attributes="member: 18253"><p>I think virtue has strong connotations of right and wrong. Used in this case, apart from what the group may require, someone might think that one way might be right for its own sake. I tend to think the opposite, that within a wide range of latitude, they are equally right.</p><p> </p><p>From dictionary.reference.com for virtue (my first hit on google):</p><p>1. moral excellence; goodness; righteousness. </p><p>2. conformity of one's life and conduct to moral and ethical principles; uprightness; rectitude. </p><p>3. chastity; virginity: <em><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">to lose one's virtue. </span></em></p><p>4. a particular moral excellence.Compare <u>cardinal virtues</u>, <a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/natural+virtue" target="_blank">natural virtue</a>, <a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/theological+virtue" target="_blank">theological virtue</a>. </p><p>5. a good or admirable quality or property: <em><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">the virtue of knowing one's weaknesses. </span></em></p><p>6. effective force; power or potency: <em><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">a charm with the virtue of removing warts. </span></em></p><p>7. <strong>virtues, </strong>an order of angels.Compare <a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/angel" target="_blank">angel</a> (def. 1). </p><p>8. manly excellence; valor. </p><p> </p><p>These are nearly all meanings that imply some correctness in terms of an absolute sense.</p><p> </p><p>So: I say pick your methods to suit your game needs. This is a relative judgement. One method is no more virtuous than other. I.e., the method chosen is not better than another in an absolute sense of goodness, admirability, comparison to some gaming ideal. I don't see any misuse of the word virtue in the way I used it.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Perhaps you didn't mean it but your earlier phrasing seems loaded with c<span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: white">ondescension, which to me implies that you feel the methods that serve such demographics are less worthy, less virtuous.</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">But if we are agreed that refs can choose the methods that suit their group (I believe we did agree on that) and that within a wide range of the sandbox to ref-driven spectruum one method is no more better a way to play an RPG than another, then color me happy.</span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Haltherrion, post: 5111137, member: 18253"] I think virtue has strong connotations of right and wrong. Used in this case, apart from what the group may require, someone might think that one way might be right for its own sake. I tend to think the opposite, that within a wide range of latitude, they are equally right. From dictionary.reference.com for virtue (my first hit on google): 1. moral excellence; goodness; righteousness. 2. conformity of one's life and conduct to moral and ethical principles; uprightness; rectitude. 3. chastity; virginity: [I][FONT=Georgia]to lose one's virtue. [/FONT][/I] 4. a particular moral excellence.Compare [U]cardinal virtues[/U], [URL="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/natural+virtue"]natural virtue[/URL], [URL="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/theological+virtue"]theological virtue[/URL]. 5. a good or admirable quality or property: [I][FONT=Georgia]the virtue of knowing one's weaknesses. [/FONT][/I] 6. effective force; power or potency: [I][FONT=Georgia]a charm with the virtue of removing warts. [/FONT][/I] 7. [B]virtues, [/B]an order of angels.Compare [URL="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/angel"]angel[/URL] (def. 1). 8. manly excellence; valor. These are nearly all meanings that imply some correctness in terms of an absolute sense. So: I say pick your methods to suit your game needs. This is a relative judgement. One method is no more virtuous than other. I.e., the method chosen is not better than another in an absolute sense of goodness, admirability, comparison to some gaming ideal. I don't see any misuse of the word virtue in the way I used it. Perhaps you didn't mean it but your earlier phrasing seems loaded with c[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][COLOR=white]ondescension, which to me implies that you feel the methods that serve such demographics are less worthy, less virtuous.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]But if we are agreed that refs can choose the methods that suit their group (I believe we did agree on that) and that within a wide range of the sandbox to ref-driven spectruum one method is no more better a way to play an RPG than another, then color me happy.[/SIZE][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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