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<blockquote data-quote="DinoInDisguise" data-source="post: 9542738" data-attributes="member: 7045806"><p>I think if you look closely at what has been said, you may find some of what I'm speaking about. I'm going to pick on you here, not because you are alone or especially bad. But because I don't want to ping a bunch of Enworlders for this. After all, they will see it if they want to engage with the thread again.</p><p></p><p>Insinuating that DMs who roll behind a screen don't prep seems to be a recurring theme of yours. If I said "cooks who don't add garlic often burn food," I'd be called out, and fairly so, as it's patently absurd. Yet, here we are. The same statement in D&D terms being repeated over and over again. All in spite of the statements being gross over-generalizations and demonstrably false. Feels like a way to make people feel inferior at the hobby, but maybe that's just me.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Or how about if we claim that rolling in secret means the DM should actively enable actual cheating. In essence ignoring the asymmetric design of the most popular systems. Claiming that if I roll behind the screen that means I should just allow my players to cheat. Even though, as a DM, I am allowed by rule, at least in modern D&D, to fudge the roll and the players are not. Maybe this is innocent, but it seems to me to be comparing my behavior to cheating - something that is very likely to be completely false. </p><p></p><p>Maybe you mean that if I roll behind a screen I should be okay with playing with cheaters? Or, in a real malicious reading, that I deserve to play with cheaters. The best reading I can come up with is a childish "well if the players have to trust you, you have to trust them" followed by a tongue.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So maybe my statement was too specific. Focusing too much on those who cross the line. Those who said it out loud. Like on page 2 where one Enworlder just calls people who fudge cheaters - in spite of it being allowed by rule. Or just a page or two ago where a large swath of the community was called bad for their choice here. And those are just some easy examples.</p><p></p><p>We can bicker about whether it's demeaning, or insulting, or debate the intent behind the statements, but at best it is off-putting, dismissive and hostile on the surface. And you were, sadly, not alone in this. </p><p></p><p>I will let you have the last word here, as I think my time in this thread has come to an end. I hope in the future we can engage in vigorous debate in a more positive way.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DinoInDisguise, post: 9542738, member: 7045806"] I think if you look closely at what has been said, you may find some of what I'm speaking about. I'm going to pick on you here, not because you are alone or especially bad. But because I don't want to ping a bunch of Enworlders for this. After all, they will see it if they want to engage with the thread again. Insinuating that DMs who roll behind a screen don't prep seems to be a recurring theme of yours. If I said "cooks who don't add garlic often burn food," I'd be called out, and fairly so, as it's patently absurd. Yet, here we are. The same statement in D&D terms being repeated over and over again. All in spite of the statements being gross over-generalizations and demonstrably false. Feels like a way to make people feel inferior at the hobby, but maybe that's just me. Or how about if we claim that rolling in secret means the DM should actively enable actual cheating. In essence ignoring the asymmetric design of the most popular systems. Claiming that if I roll behind the screen that means I should just allow my players to cheat. Even though, as a DM, I am allowed by rule, at least in modern D&D, to fudge the roll and the players are not. Maybe this is innocent, but it seems to me to be comparing my behavior to cheating - something that is very likely to be completely false. Maybe you mean that if I roll behind a screen I should be okay with playing with cheaters? Or, in a real malicious reading, that I deserve to play with cheaters. The best reading I can come up with is a childish "well if the players have to trust you, you have to trust them" followed by a tongue. So maybe my statement was too specific. Focusing too much on those who cross the line. Those who said it out loud. Like on page 2 where one Enworlder just calls people who fudge cheaters - in spite of it being allowed by rule. Or just a page or two ago where a large swath of the community was called bad for their choice here. And those are just some easy examples. We can bicker about whether it's demeaning, or insulting, or debate the intent behind the statements, but at best it is off-putting, dismissive and hostile on the surface. And you were, sadly, not alone in this. I will let you have the last word here, as I think my time in this thread has come to an end. I hope in the future we can engage in vigorous debate in a more positive way. [/QUOTE]
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