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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ThirdWizard" data-source="post: 6320131" data-attributes="member: 12037">Please consider this.There are basically two different types of players arguing here. There are those who see the rules as a kind of world simulation. The PCs observe the simulation and act according to those rules. Then there are the players who see the rules as a way to figure out what happens when their PCs act, but the PCs will not observe those rules in any way.So, this is basically not a productive conversation people are having. Those who just see the rules as an adjudication method aren't going to see Second Wind as a problem. They aren't approaching the game from an angle where it would come up. They ask "What would my character do in this situation, assuming X fiction." The other group comes in and asks "What would my character do in this situation, assuming X world physics."So, where people see a problem with multiple short rests and wonder why others don't see that problem, it is because the people who don't see it as a problem simply wouldn't have any reason to act that way. When you start with the fiction, instead of the rules, the rules work very well. Why? Because if it wouldn't occur to you to do X without reading the rules, then they aren't going to do X. They will see doing X as silly, from an in game perspective, and quite frankly nonsense.Simple as that. Two different playstyles. No one is right. No need to argue.</blockquote>