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Should the Greatsword be d12?
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<blockquote data-quote="erik_the_guy" data-source="post: 4397640" data-attributes="member: 70483"><p>I just want to clarify what I was saying about the greatsword VS greataxe. My general claim was that for a melee basic attack in a range that is average for a great weapon fighter the greataxe does a smidgen more damage on average. The Numbers are likely different at various points as you level up but I'm guessing that, on average, the numbers are about the same overall through epic teir.</p><p>As you level the greataxes damage becomes higher (it deals more damage as your higher level powers deal more [W]). What was +1 damage over the greatsword in heroic teir becomes +2, 3, ... as you use higher level powers. However, even at epic teir, the greatsword is still only at +1 to hit over the greataxe.</p><p>The point is that this is balanced because a +1 to damage at level 30 is nothing, while +5 to damage is significant. On the other hand, +1 to hit at level 30 is just as valuable as a +1 to hit at level 1 (this is one of the balance factors that 4e trumps the other editions at).</p><p></p><p>As far as the bastard sword goes, it is not a great option to use over the greatsword. The +1 damage is nice at level one, but since it is not multiplied by 7[W] or the like it is still only +1 at level 30. This is not a lot of damage for a feat (compared to weapon focus, +3 at level 30). Switching from greatsword to bastard sword is simply an option for a fighter who doesn't have anything better to do with his feats.</p><p></p><p>With attacks that have high [W] the axe and sword are balanced. The sword has a bit better chance to hit with all that damage, but the axe gets a major benefit if you actually do hit. The sword is best for those attacks which have other effects if you do hit (such as ongoing damage). IMO the axe is better for attacks that do half damage on a miss.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="erik_the_guy, post: 4397640, member: 70483"] I just want to clarify what I was saying about the greatsword VS greataxe. My general claim was that for a melee basic attack in a range that is average for a great weapon fighter the greataxe does a smidgen more damage on average. The Numbers are likely different at various points as you level up but I'm guessing that, on average, the numbers are about the same overall through epic teir. As you level the greataxes damage becomes higher (it deals more damage as your higher level powers deal more [W]). What was +1 damage over the greatsword in heroic teir becomes +2, 3, ... as you use higher level powers. However, even at epic teir, the greatsword is still only at +1 to hit over the greataxe. The point is that this is balanced because a +1 to damage at level 30 is nothing, while +5 to damage is significant. On the other hand, +1 to hit at level 30 is just as valuable as a +1 to hit at level 1 (this is one of the balance factors that 4e trumps the other editions at). As far as the bastard sword goes, it is not a great option to use over the greatsword. The +1 damage is nice at level one, but since it is not multiplied by 7[W] or the like it is still only +1 at level 30. This is not a lot of damage for a feat (compared to weapon focus, +3 at level 30). Switching from greatsword to bastard sword is simply an option for a fighter who doesn't have anything better to do with his feats. With attacks that have high [W] the axe and sword are balanced. The sword has a bit better chance to hit with all that damage, but the axe gets a major benefit if you actually do hit. The sword is best for those attacks which have other effects if you do hit (such as ongoing damage). IMO the axe is better for attacks that do half damage on a miss. [/QUOTE]
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