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Should the Hexblade Patron be Banned?
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<blockquote data-quote="Flamestrike" data-source="post: 8107988" data-attributes="member: 6788736"><p>I've done just this but it still feels sucky.</p><p></p><p>One attack with GFB at 5th level, just isnt the same as swinging that greatsword twice. Moreso on a Paladin thanks to 2 smites being better than one.</p><p></p><p>Considering a Paladin can dump Dexterity and Intelligence (heavy armor), and still need Strength to wear that heavy armor, I dont see the MAD as being an issue for them to justify the dip. Ditto Bards, and ditto Sorcerers (each for different reasons).</p><p></p><p>Compare a Paladin (default array, +2 Charisma at 4th) Vuman at 5th level: Str 16, Dex 8, Con 14, Wis 12, Int 10, Cha 16.</p><p></p><p>If he's dumping Strength to instead focus on Charisma via a Hexblade dip, he's not using heavy armor (or likely even medium armor) due to encumbrance, meaning he needs a good Dex now. His AC is likely worse than that of the above single classed Paladin, he misses out on extra attack, and likely only has a hit bonus of +1 higher than the Strength based single class paladin to make up for it.</p><p></p><p>He has access to shield, a recharching 1st level slot for smites, and a better ranged attack with EB, but that's really more of a fallback option; his main schtick is getting in someone's face and smiting them dead, which the single classed Paladin simply just does a whole lot better.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Flamestrike, post: 8107988, member: 6788736"] I've done just this but it still feels sucky. One attack with GFB at 5th level, just isnt the same as swinging that greatsword twice. Moreso on a Paladin thanks to 2 smites being better than one. Considering a Paladin can dump Dexterity and Intelligence (heavy armor), and still need Strength to wear that heavy armor, I dont see the MAD as being an issue for them to justify the dip. Ditto Bards, and ditto Sorcerers (each for different reasons). Compare a Paladin (default array, +2 Charisma at 4th) Vuman at 5th level: Str 16, Dex 8, Con 14, Wis 12, Int 10, Cha 16. If he's dumping Strength to instead focus on Charisma via a Hexblade dip, he's not using heavy armor (or likely even medium armor) due to encumbrance, meaning he needs a good Dex now. His AC is likely worse than that of the above single classed Paladin, he misses out on extra attack, and likely only has a hit bonus of +1 higher than the Strength based single class paladin to make up for it. He has access to shield, a recharching 1st level slot for smites, and a better ranged attack with EB, but that's really more of a fallback option; his main schtick is getting in someone's face and smiting them dead, which the single classed Paladin simply just does a whole lot better. [/QUOTE]
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