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Message: <blockquote data-quote="accountcreatedtopostthis" data-source="post: 8925091" data-attributes="member: 7040301">So I've read all the replies to this post of yours. And how you adressed them in turn.I kind of agree with you. I like the way you pointed out that 1) What they actualy want is a Gish. 2)In their mind: Gish = Arcane half-caster. 3) There might be alternatives for a relevant DnD Gish.That.said. I disagree with the logic that lets you discard the parallel between a Gish as an arcane equivalent to the Paladin and Ranger.Your argument that the class specific spells are irrelevant...I mean, ranger without hunter's mark or Paladin without find steed could work I guess but...how about no?Jesting aside: the way the ranger's spell list meshes with the skillset, both in fluff and crunch is hard to deny.On the same token, the divine smite feature of the Paladin illustrates how a half-caster spell list can fuel spell-adjacent skills.Based on those 2 observations, is it that big a stretch to imagine a Magus-like arcane half-caster with enough, varied, spellslot-fueled spell-adjacent features (a la divine smite) to both create a valid identity and justify not reserving your slots for spamming shield every round? breeeeeeeathesLike a monk spending spellslots instead of ki points.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f914.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":unsure:" title="Unsure    :unsure:"  data-smilie="24"data-shortname=":unsure:" /> Yeah, I guess making a monk analogy when trying to sell a game design is a poor strategy, but I'm sure you get my meaning.To be clear: not saying the Warlock chassis for the Gish is bad. The aforementioned "spell-adjacent skills" term could be used to describe Invocations after all.Just saying your entirely disregarding working with what we already have seems like a pity.In my opinon, anyway.</blockquote>

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