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<blockquote data-quote="Urriak Uruk" data-source="post: 8363117" data-attributes="member: 7015558"><p>I'm going to focus on specifically this part of your response, because I don't want to get bogged down in three largely different arguments.</p><p></p><p>Firstly, saying D&D does D&D-style-fantasy is like saying World of Warcraft does Warcraft style fantasy. I mean, yeah it's true, it also doesn't mean <em>anything</em>. It's like saying your dog is a canine; it's circular.</p><p></p><p>I'm not a literary professor, so I'm not going to try and provide my definitions for what "Heroic Fantasy" is; just google it or look at it's Wikipedia article. My personal definition probably isn't going to line up exactly with yours, and I don't care. The exact definition doesn't matter, the approximate definition (extraordinary people doing adventures) is all that's necessary.</p><p></p><p>Now, what <em>does </em>do a good job of explaining D&D's genre for me? Why, it's 5E's appendix E from the Player's Handbook;</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]141668[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>Now, there are a couple books here that stand out from as black sheep (I mean, HP Lovecraft doesn't really scream D&D), but most of these books have a lot of commonalities. More importantly, most of these books are the inspiration for the many settings of D&D and it's core tenets; how wizards do magic for example (forgetting their spells) is pulled nearly directly from Jack Vance. Does that mean that D&D Fantasy is actually Vancian Fantasy? I doubt it, because Vance's books are usually set in Earth's far future. So is it more like Moorcock, set on a completely different world?</p><p></p><p>Anyway, the point is that D&D is inspired by an amalgamation of several different writers. And, the core rulebooks, while providing one easy outline for how to run a setting, also provide several alternatives in cosmology and even magical systems. So I find it silly to say 5E has a core setting at all, although I think it is fair to say it hedges to a specific genre of fantasy (as shown by the Appendix E).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Urriak Uruk, post: 8363117, member: 7015558"] I'm going to focus on specifically this part of your response, because I don't want to get bogged down in three largely different arguments. Firstly, saying D&D does D&D-style-fantasy is like saying World of Warcraft does Warcraft style fantasy. I mean, yeah it's true, it also doesn't mean [I]anything[/I]. It's like saying your dog is a canine; it's circular. I'm not a literary professor, so I'm not going to try and provide my definitions for what "Heroic Fantasy" is; just google it or look at it's Wikipedia article. My personal definition probably isn't going to line up exactly with yours, and I don't care. The exact definition doesn't matter, the approximate definition (extraordinary people doing adventures) is all that's necessary. Now, what [I]does [/I]do a good job of explaining D&D's genre for me? Why, it's 5E's appendix E from the Player's Handbook; [ATTACH type="full"]141668[/ATTACH] Now, there are a couple books here that stand out from as black sheep (I mean, HP Lovecraft doesn't really scream D&D), but most of these books have a lot of commonalities. More importantly, most of these books are the inspiration for the many settings of D&D and it's core tenets; how wizards do magic for example (forgetting their spells) is pulled nearly directly from Jack Vance. Does that mean that D&D Fantasy is actually Vancian Fantasy? I doubt it, because Vance's books are usually set in Earth's far future. So is it more like Moorcock, set on a completely different world? Anyway, the point is that D&D is inspired by an amalgamation of several different writers. And, the core rulebooks, while providing one easy outline for how to run a setting, also provide several alternatives in cosmology and even magical systems. So I find it silly to say 5E has a core setting at all, although I think it is fair to say it hedges to a specific genre of fantasy (as shown by the Appendix E). [/QUOTE]
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