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Message: <blockquote data-quote="bramadan" data-source="post: 840690" data-attributes="member: 1064">Could not agree more, the BovD was one of the more dissapointing 3ed products for its sheer timidity and the idea that "icky" and gross are somehow substitute for evil. A) Yes, the maketing research before 3ed pointed that the target audience for the d20 were coledge aged folks, COnsiderable subset of those would surely support truly "mature" line of gaming products.B) If it were at all like BoVD, puerile and dry and not-realy-that-evil (refuse to use word "vile") then resoundingly no. If, on the other hand it were rich in atmosphere and going for the true grit of the dark fantasy then not only would I buy it but it would be my favourite d20 line in a heart beat. The atmosphere in question would be something like the George Martin's books or the "Bitter Crusade" or some other Dark Ages vampire books (but without vampires). C) If it were cool, in the above sense, I would do all I can to let the world know. D) Absolutely, even if it were BoVD kind of crap. I firmly believe that it is up to the market and market alone to determine what shoud sell and to whome and up to the parent and parents alone to take care of the upbringing of their children. I would object in principle to the "do not sell under 18" label but would live with it. I think that attempting to censor (or self censor) the gaming (or any other) book is probably as vile an act as any depicted therein.E) Again, very much yes. I have a fairly large ammount of material developed for my setting without intention for it to be ever published that goes very much into what could be considered evil or mature subjects (human sacrifices, curses, sexual magic etc...). I would indeed be willing to post some of that on the aforementioned site (and maybe, just maybe, catch the eye of the publisher of such a line....    <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool    :cool:"  data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /> )</blockquote>

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