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Message: <blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 5563552" data-attributes="member: 92511">Another "kudos" to your DM's creativity. Sounds like a nice, non-standard way to give the PCs a nice payout.I would also say that "handwaving that it didn't happen" is absolutely NOT the way to handle this...as utterly infuriating as it must be for the other players.The dwarf gets some "props" for role-laying his character and sticking to his guns...but, actions have consequences.In this case (don't even get me started with murdering the LG wizard), I think booting the PC (again, not the player) from the group is neither drastic nor unwarranted. This is twice his alleged "beliefs" have caused the party serious loss! "Thanks, but no thanks, buddy. We'll do fine on our own. Go sequester yourself in a St. Cuthbert seminary where you can't do us any more damage."Again, good (and kind) DM. I hope you bring her gifts and refreshment on all high holidays. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />That's nice he's keeping with his character/backstory...but if he's that..."fanatical", it seems he ought to be a looking to become a cleric...not that I think killing LG wizards is going to get him into Cuthbert's graces. But that's the PC's problem.Yeah, I'm inclined to guess that finding it in his notes was your DM being kind again and thinking on her feet to get you the info you needed.Again, this is...or may be "good" roleplaying...but it also seems to be the player is not paying attention to the world he is existing in. If it is known that necromancers are not necessarily evil, then he has no leg to stand on...IF St. Cuthbert's church says "death to all necromancers" in their dogma, then...yeah, it's justified. But you haven't made it sound like this is the case.If you want to take a less stringent stand than "pay up what you lost us or we're booting your PC from the party"...I'd say a "3 strikes and you're out...you have 2....2 reeeeally realllly big ones. Tread carefully."And that's great that that's the PC he wants...and that PC must exist in a NON-black and white world...with other NON-black and white PCs. His actions have consequences...like booting him from the party...or hiring a different rogue and keeping him back at camp to guard the horses or something...not letting him anywhere near anything that MIGHT be considered "treasure"...and obviously, paying back the party members for all of the treasure he looses them.How does he respond to "the wizard you murdered wasn't evil? Those jars of copious wealth you destroyed were not evil"?...So in what way are you black-n-whitely "stomping out evil?"MOST of the time I'm not watching 30,000gp getting smashed down the drain...Real life friends has nothing to do with it...this is PC actions...have and deserve PC ramifications. If the character doesn't want everyone in the party mad at him, then he will need to curb his behavior in such a way as to not make them mad. From what you've told of the PC's attitude and background, I am inclined to believe the PC does not care if anyone is mad at him and exists in a self-created moral justification...hence, he is really not of use to the "good of the party."Just my few coppers on the sitch.--Steel Dragons</blockquote>

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