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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elf Witch" data-source="post: 5579948" data-attributes="member: 9037">No I don't consider expedience and playing smart to be the same thing at all.While sometimes being expedient is playing smart it not always true.Killing the necromancer in front of a member of his guild and a cleric of a lawful god was expedient it got the job done but it was really dumb. The smart thing would have been to sneak back and do the deed.Personally I think sneaking back and destroying the skeletons could have been smart if he had not just stood there waiting for us and letting us know he did it.I also like RPGs to allow cinematic things like  a halfling about to be burned to death by a dragon throwing pepper in its nose and the DM not bothering to roll because the idea was so good and the halfling escape.I don't think it is good DMing to just throw the law at the PCs and throw them in jail if the PCs have been cleaver and worked hard to cover their tracks. It should never just be fait accompli. My DM in the situation we had used throwing the dwarf in jail to further and the plot. We were blackmailed into investigating weird things in a mine which in turn led us to the main bad guys of the story.We have only had one PC death in three years of play. And that death was really caused by the player doing something really stupid. The game should always be about what is fun for everyone at the table including the DM. And I never play in a game for very long if there is adversarial play at the table directed at the players and not the PCs. There is a big difference between kicking a PC out of the party for pissing off his fellow PCs and kicking a player out. Something that I have not seen happen at a table in years.If I play a paladin I don't have any issue with losing abilities if I break my code. So a DM can throw moral dilemmas at me give me bad and worse choices and I will happily role play them out. But if a player hates that then the DM should not do it. It is all about knowing what your players enjoy.</blockquote>

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