Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Should this be fixed
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 5582205" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>Well, the big deal would be that point of play is to examine the morality of an act of terrorism. I would have no problems with adding "extreme", "illegal" or "violent" as descriptors, since that fits pretty much every possible act of terrorism I can think of.</p><p></p><p>But, if you add "evil" to the descriptors, you've just answered the entire point of play. See Doug McCrae's quote from DitV for a better worded answer than mine.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ahh, but now you see the problem. If we define all acts of terrorism as evil, now we have to actually define whether or not a given act is actually an act of terrorism. That shifts the point of play from an examination of morality to one of semantics. All you have to do is look at the bajillion paladin alignment discussions on the Internet to see what kind of rabbit hole that is to dive into.</p><p></p><p>Because, now, in order for an action to be considered evil, it has to fit the definition of terrorism. IOW, it becomes all about semantics. </p><p></p><p>OTOH, if you don't pre-define terrorism as evil, then the discussion becomes about whether or not the given act is morally justifiable or not, not whether or not it's a terrorist act in the first place.</p><p></p><p>Oh, and just a point about the railroading thing... railroading really isn't the right term here. I totally understand why people don't consider it railroading at all. But, basically, the GM, by playing God and defining a given act's moral dimensions, the GM has taken away the ability of the players to work towards a definition.</p><p></p><p>It's only railroading if you kinda squint and tilt your head to the side. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 5582205, member: 22779"] Well, the big deal would be that point of play is to examine the morality of an act of terrorism. I would have no problems with adding "extreme", "illegal" or "violent" as descriptors, since that fits pretty much every possible act of terrorism I can think of. But, if you add "evil" to the descriptors, you've just answered the entire point of play. See Doug McCrae's quote from DitV for a better worded answer than mine. Ahh, but now you see the problem. If we define all acts of terrorism as evil, now we have to actually define whether or not a given act is actually an act of terrorism. That shifts the point of play from an examination of morality to one of semantics. All you have to do is look at the bajillion paladin alignment discussions on the Internet to see what kind of rabbit hole that is to dive into. Because, now, in order for an action to be considered evil, it has to fit the definition of terrorism. IOW, it becomes all about semantics. OTOH, if you don't pre-define terrorism as evil, then the discussion becomes about whether or not the given act is morally justifiable or not, not whether or not it's a terrorist act in the first place. Oh, and just a point about the railroading thing... railroading really isn't the right term here. I totally understand why people don't consider it railroading at all. But, basically, the GM, by playing God and defining a given act's moral dimensions, the GM has taken away the ability of the players to work towards a definition. It's only railroading if you kinda squint and tilt your head to the side. :D [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Should this be fixed
Top