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Should this have been a TPK?
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<blockquote data-quote="Herpes Cineplex" data-source="post: 1532807" data-attributes="member: 16936"><p>Just from a cursory reading of the fight, it sounds like the party was very successfully ambushed by a group which could have done some serious damage to them even if it had been a fair fight. I mean, before the rest of the party had a chance to do anything, two of them were out of the fight, making it four-on-three (which is bad even when the four <em>aren't</em> noticeably stronger than the three).</p><p></p><p>The wizard sounds like she had almost exactly the wrong kind of spells prepared for the encounter as it actually played out; spells that make the front line's job easier by hindering the enemy are great, provided you actually <em>have</em> a front line. In this case, the party wasn't lucky enough to ever field much of one, so most of her spell's effectiveness was wasted. She basically bought the party a couple of extra rounds, but since most of the party was already out of the fight, there wasn't anyone to take advantage of it. And then the fighter's bad luck let him get dogpiled before he could actually accomplish anything.</p><p></p><p>If the ranger had spotted the orcs in time to double back and rejoin the rest of the group, or if the whole party had moved up immediately, you guys might have been able to pull it off with maybe one or two casualties at most. I mean, you did okay even considering how badly split up you were and how poorly you were rolling, so I think you could've taken 'em in a fairer fight.</p><p></p><p>--</p><p>there's a reason why the old rule 'never split up the party' was established, y'know <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p>ryan</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Herpes Cineplex, post: 1532807, member: 16936"] Just from a cursory reading of the fight, it sounds like the party was very successfully ambushed by a group which could have done some serious damage to them even if it had been a fair fight. I mean, before the rest of the party had a chance to do anything, two of them were out of the fight, making it four-on-three (which is bad even when the four [i]aren't[/i] noticeably stronger than the three). The wizard sounds like she had almost exactly the wrong kind of spells prepared for the encounter as it actually played out; spells that make the front line's job easier by hindering the enemy are great, provided you actually [i]have[/i] a front line. In this case, the party wasn't lucky enough to ever field much of one, so most of her spell's effectiveness was wasted. She basically bought the party a couple of extra rounds, but since most of the party was already out of the fight, there wasn't anyone to take advantage of it. And then the fighter's bad luck let him get dogpiled before he could actually accomplish anything. If the ranger had spotted the orcs in time to double back and rejoin the rest of the group, or if the whole party had moved up immediately, you guys might have been able to pull it off with maybe one or two casualties at most. I mean, you did okay even considering how badly split up you were and how poorly you were rolling, so I think you could've taken 'em in a fairer fight. -- there's a reason why the old rule 'never split up the party' was established, y'know ;) ryan [/QUOTE]
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