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Should we let the 'Wierd Wizard Show' begin in 5e?
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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 5805597" data-attributes="member: 996"><p>Prettymuch like always, then. </p><p></p><p>You're leaving out one thing (OK, two things, there's also weapon damage, which can be pretty trivial at high level). Hitting. A high level fighter has to hit each time to do that damage, and he has to pile it onto one target to do damage comparable to the spell.</p><p></p><p>If the spell engulf 4 enemies, all of whom save, that's still more than 100 damage. Assuming worst case (all saved) vs best (all attacks hit). </p><p></p><p>And, Full Attack is the fighters best option. Blasting spells are typically the casters' worst options.</p><p></p><p></p><p>And sit out large swaths of game time. The balance of boredom.</p><p></p><p>Can't argue too hard about that. D&D has generally gotten better with each ed, and degraded slowly within each ed. (making the next one almost welcome, some of the time -though not so much this time, it hasn't even been 4 years yet). Sure, there was a lot of broken stuff in the PH1 in 3.5, and Blade Cascade and split-primary classes in the 4e PH1. But still, it only got more broken as you added to it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 5805597, member: 996"] Prettymuch like always, then. You're leaving out one thing (OK, two things, there's also weapon damage, which can be pretty trivial at high level). Hitting. A high level fighter has to hit each time to do that damage, and he has to pile it onto one target to do damage comparable to the spell. If the spell engulf 4 enemies, all of whom save, that's still more than 100 damage. Assuming worst case (all saved) vs best (all attacks hit). And, Full Attack is the fighters best option. Blasting spells are typically the casters' worst options. And sit out large swaths of game time. The balance of boredom. Can't argue too hard about that. D&D has generally gotten better with each ed, and degraded slowly within each ed. (making the next one almost welcome, some of the time -though not so much this time, it hasn't even been 4 years yet). Sure, there was a lot of broken stuff in the PH1 in 3.5, and Blade Cascade and split-primary classes in the 4e PH1. But still, it only got more broken as you added to it. [/QUOTE]
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