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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GM Dave" data-source="post: 5806087" data-attributes="member: 6687992">Whether this is better or worse then having X=Y every round, I'm not of much opinion.  Actually, I do prefer to have some choice between X and Y in how they behave from round to round and damage is not the only way to compare X and Y (a spell or power that causes blindness can be worth several rounds of damage and a sleep spell can be almost a death sentence)Yes, I did simplify the discussion of damage by leaving out the weapon characteristics because it is the stack of bonus to damage behind the weapon that can take a short sword wielded 2H and make it almost as dangerous as a Great Axe.It is also the rain of attacks on the target with the additional damage bonus that can make things pretty terrible.You are right that I did not include hitting but this is usually a problem choice for the average DM in the high game.  You either keep the AC low enough that the non-fighters can still hit the target on 15+ which generally means the Fighter can land the third blow on a 2+ and still hit the 5th blow on 10+ (pretty good odds of getting 4 of the 5 swings to hit); or, you jack up the defense so non-fighters need 20s to hit and the fighter still needs 10+ with their third swing making them well ahead of the curve for damage.Since Saving Throws and Touch defenses usually follow the main AC choice the two stay in sync in most monster design.This is just what they listed in the Class Discussion on what they are planning to do.Personally, I like it when everyone has a chance to do something meaningful in each type of situation.I do run a large group (7-9 players on a game night plus me) and I can only bring out so much star time in a 3 hour session.  I work to alternate the Social/roleplaying scenes so that I can give each player usually some star time every other week and still fit in some sort of combat (so they can roll some dice).While there are one or two that have troubles being 'spectators' while others are solving their life situations, most tend to enjoy a chance to listen and heckle from the side lines.  This is one of the best parts of group play is that you get a chance to succeed, fail, and perform before a group of your peers.  MMORPG play tends to lack this value as often you have no visual clues or feedback on your game play and a chance to 'star' while the others watch.It is the nature of book creep and splat book sales that you need to hold up a 'shiny' to encourage people to purchase.One of the troubles with most adventure sales is that they lack the 'shiny' quality as people usually feel they could have come up with something at least as good (This likely explains why adventures like Ravenloft, Keep on the Borderlands, and Temple of Elemental Evil continue to do well as they are not shiny but hard to beat for doing a better job then a GM).Paizo's Pathfinder products have the 'shiny' quality by usually providing a free player's book with several new feats and abilities to be used in the Pathfinder Product.  People want to justify the shiny; so, they buy and play the adventure.</blockquote>

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