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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nifft" data-source="post: 3877551" data-attributes="member: 6562">There was a list of spells in my post, I'm certain.That list contained spells which had pertinent decisions not made at the time the spell came into effect.That's how it applies.- - -However, something else jumped out at me: the effect of a spell isn't necessarily the triggering condition. Let's look back at scorching ray.Effect: ray.The wizard can use the ray to make an attack, but the attack isn't actually an effect of the spell -- it's merely the use of the spell's effect. In this case, I'd posit that the spell effect must exist before it can be used for an attack -- and there's the interval where the PC's readied action ("run when attacked") could go off -- because the attack isn't strictly part of the spell.In the case of fireball, note that the same principle could apply, thanks to this bit: "If you attempt to send the bead through a narrow passage, such as through an arrow slit, you must 'hit' the opening with a ranged touch attack, or else the bead strikes the barrier and detonates prematurely."This argument doesn't generally apply to area effects, so I don't like it, but I'll take it as a freestanding support.Cheers, -- N</blockquote>