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<blockquote data-quote="Dr_Rictus" data-source="post: 57585" data-attributes="member: 850">That's really only true if when you say &quot;that age&quot; you are willing to overlook the few million years between the age of dinosaurs and the rise of large mammals.Actual &quot;dire&quot; animals (such as the dire wolf or cave lion) are &quot;prehistoric&quot; from the point of view of recorded history, but that's not the definition of &quot;history&quot; that the creature types seem to be using.&nbsp; Rather, they seem to be using &quot;human history,&quot; and humans are contemporary with large mammals such as these.It's interesting to note, by the way, that the write-up of the Mammoth in the DUNGEON Magazine adventure that included one types them as animals.&nbsp; That's one of the few real-world ice-age creatures WotC has statted up for 3e.&nbsp; Hardly conclusive, but it does seem to further suggest that the dividing line with respect to actual Earth creatures is the dawn of humanity as a species.And, yes, &quot;belonging to the past&quot; is actually a perfectly valid meaning for &quot;historical.&quot;&nbsp; My point was really just that there are several possible clear definitions for the term, and that doesn't seem to be the one that was meant.&nbsp; It seems to be a (specific) other one.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dr_Rictus, post: 57585, member: 850"] That's really only true if when you say "that age" you are willing to overlook the few million years between the age of dinosaurs and the rise of large mammals. Actual "dire" animals (such as the dire wolf or cave lion) are "prehistoric" from the point of view of recorded history, but that's not the definition of "history" that the creature types seem to be using. Rather, they seem to be using "human history," and humans are contemporary with large mammals such as these. It's interesting to note, by the way, that the write-up of the Mammoth in the DUNGEON Magazine adventure that included one types them as animals. That's one of the few real-world ice-age creatures WotC has statted up for 3e. Hardly conclusive, but it does seem to further suggest that the dividing line with respect to actual Earth creatures is the dawn of humanity as a species. And, yes, "belonging to the past" is actually a perfectly valid meaning for "historical." My point was really just that there are several possible clear definitions for the term, and that doesn't seem to be the one that was meant. It seems to be a (specific) other one. [/QUOTE]

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