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<blockquote data-quote="FireLance" data-source="post: 4280409" data-attributes="member: 3424">The math behind skill challenges bothered me too. Then, I looked at the higher-level DCs and noticed something interesting (numbers from pg 42 of the DMG):For levels 1-3, a moderate check was DC 15 (DC 20 for a moderate skill check).For levels 28-30, a moderate check was DC 29 (DC 34 for a moderate skill check)A 30th level character would have a +15 for level, say a +6 from ability scores, a +5 for skill training, and an unknown amount from magic (I haven't digested all the powers and magic items yet), for a total of +26. A trained character would thus succeed 65% or more of the time on an individual skill check, making it more likely that he can overcome a skill challenge without assistance.So, the skill challenge system for 4e seems to require characters to work together (using Aid Another) to have a decent chance of overcoming the skill challenges at low levels, while allowing them to function more independently at higher levels. So, what do you think: bug or feature?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FireLance, post: 4280409, member: 3424"] The math behind skill challenges bothered me too. Then, I looked at the higher-level DCs and noticed something interesting (numbers from pg 42 of the DMG): For levels 1-3, a moderate check was DC 15 (DC 20 for a moderate skill check). For levels 28-30, a moderate check was DC 29 (DC 34 for a moderate skill check) A 30th level character would have a +15 for level, say a +6 from ability scores, a +5 for skill training, and an unknown amount from magic (I haven't digested all the powers and magic items yet), for a total of +26. A trained character would thus succeed 65% or more of the time on an individual skill check, making it more likely that he can overcome a skill challenge without assistance. So, the skill challenge system for 4e seems to require characters to work together (using Aid Another) to have a decent chance of overcoming the skill challenges at low levels, while allowing them to function more independently at higher levels. So, what do you think: bug or feature? [/QUOTE]

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