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Showing the Math: Proving that 4e’s Skill Challenge system is broken (math heavy)
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<blockquote data-quote="DSRilk" data-source="post: 4281535" data-attributes="member: 35212"><p>I like math, but for me, it's far quicker and more accurate to simply make a computer simulate it and give me the results. I did just that (you can find it at <a href="http://www.ebonterr.com/4e/skill_challenge_test.htm" target="_blank">http://www.ebonterr.com/4e/skill_challenge_test.htm</a>). I wrote it to run 10,000 runs of diff 1 - 5 skill challenges. It assumes moderate difficulty level 1 skill checks (DC 20) and an optimal character making each check with a skill of +9 (18 ability score with a trained skill). Note that all the params I used can be modified on the page above, so you can run tests with whatever numbers you want to try out.</p><p></p><p>As a note, reading the rules on skill challenges in the DMG plus the example, while it's possible to give others a +2 bonus on a check, it's not that common. You don't just use aid another. The one example in the DMG where you can give someone +2 actually comes from something written in the challenge where a character unearths information on the duke and makes a successful history check.</p><p></p><p>Here are the results for diff 1 - 5 challenges at level 1 (results have varied by as much as 1%):</p><p></p><p>% success</p><p></p><p>diff 1: 18.92 %</p><p>diff 2: 14.3 %</p><p>diff 3: 11.09 %</p><p>diff 4: 9.21 %</p><p>diff 5: 7.08 %</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DSRilk, post: 4281535, member: 35212"] I like math, but for me, it's far quicker and more accurate to simply make a computer simulate it and give me the results. I did just that (you can find it at [url]http://www.ebonterr.com/4e/skill_challenge_test.htm[/url]). I wrote it to run 10,000 runs of diff 1 - 5 skill challenges. It assumes moderate difficulty level 1 skill checks (DC 20) and an optimal character making each check with a skill of +9 (18 ability score with a trained skill). Note that all the params I used can be modified on the page above, so you can run tests with whatever numbers you want to try out. As a note, reading the rules on skill challenges in the DMG plus the example, while it's possible to give others a +2 bonus on a check, it's not that common. You don't just use aid another. The one example in the DMG where you can give someone +2 actually comes from something written in the challenge where a character unearths information on the duke and makes a successful history check. Here are the results for diff 1 - 5 challenges at level 1 (results have varied by as much as 1%): % success diff 1: 18.92 % diff 2: 14.3 % diff 3: 11.09 % diff 4: 9.21 % diff 5: 7.08 % [/QUOTE]
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