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<blockquote data-quote="silentounce" data-source="post: 4282135" data-attributes="member: 67099">Two questions, have you read this ENTIRE thread, and have you read all the pertinent sections of the DMG(Chapters 3 and 5 for the most part)?&nbsp; Because most of what you are complaining about has been addressed in this thread already, especailly that +5 thing.&nbsp; Read what I bolded in your post above, now go look at the table on page 42 and read what is below the line for 28th-30th levels.&nbsp; Read the example on page 42 and look at the bottom of the chart, it's clear as day.&nbsp; How is that a contradiction?Everything about DCs in the skill challenge section refers to that table.&nbsp; And that table explicitly states that skill checks get a +5 DC.&nbsp; Not to mention that even when not boosting the DC by 5 this system is still broken.&nbsp; Which was already discussed earlier in this thread.It helps to read the entire table.&nbsp; As I mentioned above, there are too very important notes below the table.&nbsp; And the default of that table is for ability checks, not for attacks as the guy above me said, which is why there's a +2 for attacks note.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="silentounce, post: 4282135, member: 67099"] Two questions, have you read this ENTIRE thread, and have you read all the pertinent sections of the DMG(Chapters 3 and 5 for the most part)? Because most of what you are complaining about has been addressed in this thread already, especailly that +5 thing. Read what I bolded in your post above, now go look at the table on page 42 and read what is below the line for 28th-30th levels. Read the example on page 42 and look at the bottom of the chart, it's clear as day. How is that a contradiction? Everything about DCs in the skill challenge section refers to that table. And that table explicitly states that skill checks get a +5 DC. Not to mention that even when not boosting the DC by 5 this system is still broken. Which was already discussed earlier in this thread. It helps to read the entire table. As I mentioned above, there are too very important notes below the table. And the default of that table is for ability checks, not for attacks as the guy above me said, which is why there's a +2 for attacks note. [/QUOTE]

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