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<blockquote data-quote="Saeviomagy" data-source="post: 4282516" data-attributes="member: 5890">Both of your groups seem to have taken the tack that if the skill isn't listed as a primary skill, it flat-out doesn't work - is that the case? Our group interrogated a prisoner using intimidate, diplomacy, insight, perception, nature, heal... I forget what else. Generally &quot;pick a skill you're pretty good at, think up a way in which it applies, DM determines result&quot;. Some of those end up being +/- 2s, some of them directly contribute. Particularly appropriate descriptions net a bonus to the roll, and totally inappropriate ones net a penalty.I find it hard to believe that no party members had skills that could be used aside from one or two characters with good scores in prime abilities. I think it's more likely that your players are falling into the trap of treating a skill challenge like a 3e style &quot;make a roll on this skill and only this skill. Anything else will fail. Only the highest score need apply&quot; skill contests.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Saeviomagy, post: 4282516, member: 5890"] Both of your groups seem to have taken the tack that if the skill isn't listed as a primary skill, it flat-out doesn't work - is that the case? Our group interrogated a prisoner using intimidate, diplomacy, insight, perception, nature, heal... I forget what else. Generally "pick a skill you're pretty good at, think up a way in which it applies, DM determines result". Some of those end up being +/- 2s, some of them directly contribute. Particularly appropriate descriptions net a bonus to the roll, and totally inappropriate ones net a penalty. I find it hard to believe that no party members had skills that could be used aside from one or two characters with good scores in prime abilities. I think it's more likely that your players are falling into the trap of treating a skill challenge like a 3e style "make a roll on this skill and only this skill. Anything else will fail. Only the highest score need apply" skill contests. [/QUOTE]

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