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<blockquote data-quote="abeattie" data-source="post: 4283113" data-attributes="member: 61684">Sure -- however it is the same assumption that was put out in the first post of this thread (that every character will get to use their best skill), which is why I carried it over. Racial bonuses are not conditional -- if you have a bonus to that skill you have a bonus to that skill. I've noticed that the race/skill bonues do tend to overlap (Other than humans: eladrin get +2 to int. +2 to two int based skills, likewise with their respective attributes for dwarves , elves, and halflings. The rest have a single skill overlap Dragonborn charisma/intimidate, half-elves get charisma / diplomacy. )So -- yes, that kind of double-dip is not only likely but almost certain. There are not so many skills that dms should be denying uses for thievery, bluff, or intimidate whenever they want to drop a diplomacy challenge unless the dm wants to star a single character and have them make all the rolls. Therefore -- I suggest -- that as often as not, those characters that do roll will be doing so with an attribute / skill overlap -- at least until utility powers and other modifiers start to kick the odds in the favor of anyone with training and a 14 in the related attribute.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="abeattie, post: 4283113, member: 61684"] Sure -- however it is the same assumption that was put out in the first post of this thread (that every character will get to use their best skill), which is why I carried it over. Racial bonuses are not conditional -- if you have a bonus to that skill you have a bonus to that skill. I've noticed that the race/skill bonues do tend to overlap (Other than humans: eladrin get +2 to int. +2 to two int based skills, likewise with their respective attributes for dwarves , elves, and halflings. The rest have a single skill overlap Dragonborn charisma/intimidate, half-elves get charisma / diplomacy. ) So -- yes, that kind of double-dip is not only likely but almost certain. There are not so many skills that dms should be denying uses for thievery, bluff, or intimidate whenever they want to drop a diplomacy challenge unless the dm wants to star a single character and have them make all the rolls. Therefore -- I suggest -- that as often as not, those characters that do roll will be doing so with an attribute / skill overlap -- at least until utility powers and other modifiers start to kick the odds in the favor of anyone with training and a 14 in the related attribute. [/QUOTE]

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