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Showing the Math: Proving that 4e’s Skill Challenge system is broken (math heavy)
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<blockquote data-quote="silentounce" data-source="post: 4283481" data-attributes="member: 67099"><p>Well, you also have to contend with this though: <a href="http://wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/4dnd/20080522b" target="_blank">http://wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/4dnd/20080522b</a></p><p></p><p>Flat out states that that is a 6th level challenge. Gives DC of 22 for primary skills. Now if you look at the chart on page 42 of the DMG, there is no 22 in the 4th-6th row, but there is a 17 as the moderate entry. And 17 + 5 = 22. Next, the other two skills listed for that challenge have DCs of 18, which is 13 + 5. 13 is the number in the easy DC column. Obviously, when they created this challenge they used the table on page 42 with the +5 modifier for skill checks. Any other way to come up with the numbers they give is too convoluted.</p><p></p><p>Note the author of that skill challenge. I'm assuming that the R&D Director should know the proper way to build a challenge. Given this, it appears that the challenge with Sir Keegan was assigned an "easy" difficulty which would be a DC of 10 for 1st-3rd levels, adding a +5 for skill check would give you the DC of 15 given in the text.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="silentounce, post: 4283481, member: 67099"] Well, you also have to contend with this though: [url]http://wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/4dnd/20080522b[/url] Flat out states that that is a 6th level challenge. Gives DC of 22 for primary skills. Now if you look at the chart on page 42 of the DMG, there is no 22 in the 4th-6th row, but there is a 17 as the moderate entry. And 17 + 5 = 22. Next, the other two skills listed for that challenge have DCs of 18, which is 13 + 5. 13 is the number in the easy DC column. Obviously, when they created this challenge they used the table on page 42 with the +5 modifier for skill checks. Any other way to come up with the numbers they give is too convoluted. Note the author of that skill challenge. I'm assuming that the R&D Director should know the proper way to build a challenge. Given this, it appears that the challenge with Sir Keegan was assigned an "easy" difficulty which would be a DC of 10 for 1st-3rd levels, adding a +5 for skill check would give you the DC of 15 given in the text. [/QUOTE]
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