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<blockquote data-quote="Eric Finley" data-source="post: 4769500" data-attributes="member: 83401"><p>1. Like all items except shields and certain magic items, it's a minor action to draw a shuriken. You'd need Quickdraw to get access to more than you have hands, during any one power use (such as the barrage).</p><p></p><p>2. Yes. There's no off-hand penalty in this edition, so you can have a sword in your main hand and a shuriken in your left, and throw the shuriken without penalty. You just can't combine the two hands in a single action unless explicitly allowed to do so. The rules don't specify what kind of action it is to swap hands, but due to the lack of off-hand penalty I don't expect you'll really need to.</p><p></p><p>3. Yes, they're ammunition, and yes, nonmagical ones would technically be consumed when you use them. For something like shuriken, the DM is highly likely to allow you to recover them after combat, but per RAW they're lost. Note that magical thrown weapons return after use so you can stop worrying about this soon.</p><p></p><p>4. Yes, if nonmagical. If magical, customer service is being unclear; there are AFAIK conflicting answers. Some say that they return "instantly" even within a single power usage, so you can do a blinding barrage on four targets with a single enchanted shuriken. (I personally think that's really lame.) The other answer is that it comes back at the end of the action, so you can only use a single enchanted shuriken on a single target within the barrage. (This one seems much more reasonable to me.)</p><p></p><p>Our group has ruled that the "returns after being thrown" is a special property that can be added to any magical thrown weapon (adding probably about one level to the item) but doesn't come with it automatically. Otherwise the weapon is in the target (and can be retrieved from there if desired) and/or lost until the end of the encounter, but you'll always retrieve it at that point. Thus far it's been purely academic, though, as we have no thrown weapon users. (Both rogues prefer slings for style reasons.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Eric Finley, post: 4769500, member: 83401"] 1. Like all items except shields and certain magic items, it's a minor action to draw a shuriken. You'd need Quickdraw to get access to more than you have hands, during any one power use (such as the barrage). 2. Yes. There's no off-hand penalty in this edition, so you can have a sword in your main hand and a shuriken in your left, and throw the shuriken without penalty. You just can't combine the two hands in a single action unless explicitly allowed to do so. The rules don't specify what kind of action it is to swap hands, but due to the lack of off-hand penalty I don't expect you'll really need to. 3. Yes, they're ammunition, and yes, nonmagical ones would technically be consumed when you use them. For something like shuriken, the DM is highly likely to allow you to recover them after combat, but per RAW they're lost. Note that magical thrown weapons return after use so you can stop worrying about this soon. 4. Yes, if nonmagical. If magical, customer service is being unclear; there are AFAIK conflicting answers. Some say that they return "instantly" even within a single power usage, so you can do a blinding barrage on four targets with a single enchanted shuriken. (I personally think that's really lame.) The other answer is that it comes back at the end of the action, so you can only use a single enchanted shuriken on a single target within the barrage. (This one seems much more reasonable to me.) Our group has ruled that the "returns after being thrown" is a special property that can be added to any magical thrown weapon (adding probably about one level to the item) but doesn't come with it automatically. Otherwise the weapon is in the target (and can be retrieved from there if desired) and/or lost until the end of the encounter, but you'll always retrieve it at that point. Thus far it's been purely academic, though, as we have no thrown weapon users. (Both rogues prefer slings for style reasons.) [/QUOTE]
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