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<blockquote data-quote="Keenath" data-source="post: 4769854" data-attributes="member: 59792"><p>That's not correct. PHB page 217 says under "Load", "If a power allows you to hit multiple targets, the additional load time is accounted for in the power." This doesn't explicitly call out drawing multiple thrown weapons, but it would be pretty silly to argue that you can draw, load, and fire four crossbow bolts during the execution of a power, but couldn't draw and hurl four daggers.</p><p></p><p>In any case, you have to start a multi-target power with your weapon loaded or in hand, but then you can fire/throw as many times as the power allows even if you lack Quickdraw.</p><p></p><p>I believe it has been clarified by the devs that it's a free action to move something from one hand to the other or to change your grip from one-handed to two-handed, subject to DM limitations to reduce cheese. It's suggested you limit hand-changes to once per turn, to avoid abuses such as a swordmage who attacks two-handed to get his Versatile damage bonus, and the lets go with his off-hand to get the full benefit of his Warding. But as you said, there's no penalty for an off-hand attack, so there's really no need to juggle swords and shuriken. Just throw left-handed. </p><p></p><p>Interestingly, this was the method preferred by actual samurai, who sometimes wore the needle-like shuriken in their hair, to be thrown at an opponent's head as a distraction or at their feet to (hopefully) nail their hakama to the floor. In either case, it would serve to throw the opponent off-balance at a crucial moment while the thrower launched an attack with his sword.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Keenath, post: 4769854, member: 59792"] That's not correct. PHB page 217 says under "Load", "If a power allows you to hit multiple targets, the additional load time is accounted for in the power." This doesn't explicitly call out drawing multiple thrown weapons, but it would be pretty silly to argue that you can draw, load, and fire four crossbow bolts during the execution of a power, but couldn't draw and hurl four daggers. In any case, you have to start a multi-target power with your weapon loaded or in hand, but then you can fire/throw as many times as the power allows even if you lack Quickdraw. I believe it has been clarified by the devs that it's a free action to move something from one hand to the other or to change your grip from one-handed to two-handed, subject to DM limitations to reduce cheese. It's suggested you limit hand-changes to once per turn, to avoid abuses such as a swordmage who attacks two-handed to get his Versatile damage bonus, and the lets go with his off-hand to get the full benefit of his Warding. But as you said, there's no penalty for an off-hand attack, so there's really no need to juggle swords and shuriken. Just throw left-handed. Interestingly, this was the method preferred by actual samurai, who sometimes wore the needle-like shuriken in their hair, to be thrown at an opponent's head as a distraction or at their feet to (hopefully) nail their hakama to the floor. In either case, it would serve to throw the opponent off-balance at a crucial moment while the thrower launched an attack with his sword. [/QUOTE]
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