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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Fusiox" data-source="post: 5394576" data-attributes="member: 97839">Hello, all! Before we begin: No, this is NOT a question about holding shuriken in your off-hand, and has NOTHING to do with what sharp, pointy things you can hold while you hold other sharp, pointy things in your off-hand. I'm good with that <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> My question is: what's so special about shuriken? And why are they "Superior Weapons?" I play a Drow rogue (my DM has rejected MP/MP2 for cost and simplicity reasons--the other four members are newbies, good on them--so don't worry about Sharpshooter Talent), and my Rogue (forcibly) has Rogue Weapon Talent. I know that RWT bestows a magical d6 bonus to shuriken, and a +1 AB to daggers, thrown or swung. But what's so special about shurikens? Shuriken start off as d4 weapons, and seem identical to daggers in base Prof. and Dam. bonus, if inferior due to them being (usually) throwing-only weapons; yet, shuriken normally require a Proficiency feat to be used effectively. Why would one use a shuriken if they could instead use a hand crossbow (perhaps with Two-Fisted Shooter feat, which makes it off-hand and bestows a ranged basic attack free upon crits, and perhaps with Drow-only Ruthless Hunter, which upgrades the Hand Crossbow to d8 with High Crit), which appears to be superior to the shuriken in nearly all ways? Do shuriken have some sort of special ability that makes them worthy of a Weapon Proficiency feat? I'm just so confused over whether to use shuriken with Quick Draw or a hand crossbow with TFS and maybe Ruthless Hunter. I'm leaning towards the latter, with mechanical as well as background purposes (the Drow favor a blade & crossbow fighting style), but is there a way for shuriken to redeem themselves, mechanics-wise? Thank you for reading this. I'm too young to be losing this much hair... I'm a perfectionist when it comes to characters <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused    :confused:"  data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> May you live long, prosper somewhat and ROLL HIGH!</blockquote>

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