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<blockquote data-quote="Brys" data-source="post: 5395768" data-attributes="member: 80979">Daggers are better than Shuriken for the most part (exception is when the enemy is 6, 11, or 12 squares away).&nbsp; Everyone agrees there.&nbsp; In Hand Xbow vs Shuriken, a magical Shuriken can be thrown and returns to the hand.&nbsp; You only ever need one.&nbsp; No need to track ammo (lots of people ignore counting bolts).&nbsp; Hand Crossbow, even if it loads as a free action, technically you still need your other hand empty to load it.&nbsp; So, once you fire it, you would have to put away any weapon in your other hand, load the crossbow, pull out the other weapon again.&nbsp; You can take a feat (Two-Fisted Shooter) to get around this, but it does cost a feat.&nbsp; No such limitation with the Shuriken.Summary of differences:Shuriken: +3 prof, no ammo, no load actions, 6/12 rangeHand XBow: +2 prof, needs ammo, free hand needed to load, 10/20 range</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Brys, post: 5395768, member: 80979"] Daggers are better than Shuriken for the most part (exception is when the enemy is 6, 11, or 12 squares away). Everyone agrees there. In Hand Xbow vs Shuriken, a magical Shuriken can be thrown and returns to the hand. You only ever need one. No need to track ammo (lots of people ignore counting bolts). Hand Crossbow, even if it loads as a free action, technically you still need your other hand empty to load it. So, once you fire it, you would have to put away any weapon in your other hand, load the crossbow, pull out the other weapon again. You can take a feat (Two-Fisted Shooter) to get around this, but it does cost a feat. No such limitation with the Shuriken. Summary of differences: Shuriken: +3 prof, no ammo, no load actions, 6/12 range Hand XBow: +2 prof, needs ammo, free hand needed to load, 10/20 range [/QUOTE]

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