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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kae'Yoss" data-source="post: 288149" data-attributes="member: 4134">The first shuriken thrown carries all the bonuses for favored enemy, sneak attack or point blank shot (and none of them give STR bonuses, btw). Everything else would be munchkinism: usually you have one chance per attack for your sneak attack, not three. It would destroy the balance. Some of the math geniuses around please come up with an example please: how the chances are for a rogue with X stats to hit a foe with Y stats, and what chances the same rogue has to hit with one attack out of three, and what stats Z a rogue (or fighter) would need to have the same probability. I can tell you beforehand that those simple, cheap throwing stars and arrows and whatnot would be in fact as powerful as some real nice magic item or feat if you allow that the first hit is the sneak attack, not the first attack! They would in fact be more powerful in conjunction with sneak attack than the triple-throw special quality of the ELH is, and that one's got +6 Market price bonus......There's also the issue of consistancy: You would have three possibilities to hit home with your sneak attack. You would decide when to use your sneak attack AFTER you made the attack was made and you already knew the outcome. It doesn't work that way in other similar abilities. Look at the stunning fist description: it says that you must "Declare that you are using the feat before you make your attack roll (thus, a missed attack roll ruins the attempt)". You don't strike, hit, and say "NOW I use my stunning fist. It's the same here: you say before you make the attack roll whether this is your sneak attack attempt! As they are the same, just take the fist.If you allow the first to hit to have sneak attack damage, you would practically allow three attempts to sneak attack the enemy. But it's only one per attack, and if it misses, the attempt is wasted! What if you aimed carefully the first time you threw, but you missed because he shiftet just a little and the shuriken banged off his armor? The second wouldn't be that accurate, cause he would follow within a split second.Also, I think that they are thrown in rapid succession. You can aim the first real good, as to hit him where it hurts, but the rest comes quickly after that and without that kind of precision. If you'd throw them at the same time, it would be even worse, as they don't hit exactly the same spot and you have to concentrate on one of it.</blockquote>

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