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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Crazy Jerome" data-source="post: 5814010" data-attributes="member: 54877">You have to be flexible, but not allow just everything. A round is kind of an abstract thing, still even at 6 seconds. So in this particular case, I'd allow this if the wizard shifted or didn't move, and thus cast while the movement from the other characters was started. They've heard the wizard cast before, they see the monster glow and start to move, they stay on course. If the monster saves and doesn't move, they might change direction. Then while they are attacking at their final destination, the wizard can be using the rest of her actions. But what I would not allow is the wizard to do make a full move, whip out an item, cast the spell, and then the other characters wait to see what happens before they do anything. If the wizard needs to do that, then they have to delay until after the monster moves. (And note that with many dominate effects, this is how it would play out, because the monster won't act until its turn comes up anyway.) Basically, cut everyone a lot of slack on order of operations, but not infinite slack. If you can squint, and kind of, sort of, see that working--allow it. Some side-by-side systems get around a lot of these problem by having a separate movement phase (or separate movement phases). Everyone moves. Everyone attacks in some order (similar to mine). Everyone moves again. I considered it. But given all the other changes, that seemed a bit too much to tangle with, and still keep a lot of the 4E rules in place. And it is not as if that kind of movement doesn't have its own set of issues, too. Edit:  Keep in mind with simultaneous actions, intent is far more important than plotting a tactical course on the map.  If the paladin says he is "charging the nearest orc as soon as the wizard's spell goes off", then it doesn't matter exactly which orc that is until after the spell has taken effect.  If the spell moves a bunch of the orcs, it might change.  And if the spell moved a bunch of rubble between the paladin and the now nearest orc, he might stumble or not make it--because he was already running as the blast hit.  You picks ya poison, ya takes ya chances. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>

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