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<blockquote data-quote="Syrsuro" data-source="post: 4443663" data-attributes="member: 58162"><p>I understand the logic behind this - in theory.</p><p> </p><p>I just have trouble imagining when it might be useful.</p><p> </p><p>In a home group the players will either be so close in level as to make it unnecessary (and if they are not, such as when a new player joins the group, as a DM I would probably just raise the level of the outlier by fiat). </p><p> </p><p>In an RPGA pickup group, this would not be permissable.</p><p> </p><p>In any other form of pickup group, players can bring whatever character to the table they wish, and thus they could just level themselves up to whatever level is appropriate.</p><p> </p><p>It would only apply if you had pickup groups made up of pre-existing characters that had to conform to ongoing level restrictions outside of that pickup group. Or if you had players that objected to the DM leveling up new players to be compatible with an existing group (jealousy? misplaced simulationism? whatever....</p><p> </p><p>Not impossible that a large gaming group or other setup might need rules like this, but I just don't see it happening often.</p><p> </p><p>Edit: And if players object to characters of higher than first level joining the group, just ask them the following: "Are you guys the only Nth level characters in the world? (Assuming "No") So why wouldn't a character of your level want to join your group, and why would you refuse to allow a character of your own level to join your group?" New characters do not need to start at 1st level simply because the rest of the group started there - its not about 'fairness', its about 'fun'. And if you think there is something wrong with that, imho I'd take a look at your assumptions and ask why.</p><p> </p><p>Carl</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Syrsuro, post: 4443663, member: 58162"] I understand the logic behind this - in theory. I just have trouble imagining when it might be useful. In a home group the players will either be so close in level as to make it unnecessary (and if they are not, such as when a new player joins the group, as a DM I would probably just raise the level of the outlier by fiat). In an RPGA pickup group, this would not be permissable. In any other form of pickup group, players can bring whatever character to the table they wish, and thus they could just level themselves up to whatever level is appropriate. It would only apply if you had pickup groups made up of pre-existing characters that had to conform to ongoing level restrictions outside of that pickup group. Or if you had players that objected to the DM leveling up new players to be compatible with an existing group (jealousy? misplaced simulationism? whatever.... Not impossible that a large gaming group or other setup might need rules like this, but I just don't see it happening often. Edit: And if players object to characters of higher than first level joining the group, just ask them the following: "Are you guys the only Nth level characters in the world? (Assuming "No") So why wouldn't a character of your level want to join your group, and why would you refuse to allow a character of your own level to join your group?" New characters do not need to start at 1st level simply because the rest of the group started there - its not about 'fairness', its about 'fun'. And if you think there is something wrong with that, imho I'd take a look at your assumptions and ask why. Carl [/QUOTE]
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