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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Iry" data-source="post: 7153760" data-attributes="member: 6777378">Plenty of storytellers use other penalties upon death, like level loss or loot loss. That's certainly a conversation for another thread (and there are several cool threads about it on this forum). But it doesn't mean you have to force a player to not play D&D for several hours. If you know he's fine being a watcher, that's cool. But if he's not, he can run a hireling, play a monster, play whatever NPC might be in the area, or even roleplay someone's sentient magic weapon. Whatever is handy and convenient.I mean, there are sooooo many options. So many neat and fun things a DM can offer. A player might be a total grump and hate every one of them, but that's probably an outlier situation. Why do they have to sit there if they don't like it?</blockquote>