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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 7154012" data-attributes="member: 67338">so if I make a new character, and you say "Hey you can't make it make sense to bring it in until next week" and I calm and cool say "AOK, I'll see you next week, good luck guys" whats the issue... ok, it is dozens of pages over two posts...lots of calling me rude, and saying a 25ish year old who ran games for almost 10 years being 'unexperienced'  yup the exact scenario was late 90's 2e game my 7th level wizard was imprissioned, I had 2 ways out, I got my 20% MR roll and failed, and a save, I failed... at witch point we were about a half hour into the saterday night game. The DM was clear on what it would take...his NPC, and we coudlnt' go back to town just then. I could draw a new 1st level character, but as per his rules he would have to watch me roll stats, and OK all weapon and non weapon profs, so I could wait till after game to do so. So I went to the movies with my girlfriend, called (game was still going) and he said there was still 0 way for me to come in...so over the week between games I went and talked thourogh my 1/1 Dwarven Fighter/Cleric. I showed up the next week, and after about 30mins my new PC was captured naked chained to a wall...so after a fight they freed me, gave me a club and I joined the party... I helped finished this quest as the dwarf, we went to the NPC and he gave us a quest, when we finished it my Dwarf was either 5/6 or 6/5 something like that...but my wizard was WAY more awesome and so I went back to him even though other characters were about 11th level at the time... if that option was an option...it was not. We played into late at night, but at no point would I ever be able to join the game until AFTER this session... nobody is talking about dieing...we are talking about 2 examples 1 I just explained up post, and 1 where in a high level plane hopping campaign some PCs were banished with no way to get back, and even the DM said he had no way to get them back... no, but if you tell a player that he can't play again from this point until the next session then leaving is an option as long as the player isn't rude about it... I don't know anyone who is suggesting this. I was talking shoots and latters... but ok. If we have a game night planed, and you know I gave up a date night with my GF to be here, and 30 minutes in something happens that stops me from playing for the rest of the night (hours) and I say "All right, I will show up next game night and love to play with you guys, but I have other things to do if I'm not playing"I have no idea what twilight Imperium is, but I have never had a risk game last more then 2 hours...and often as players are peeled off of risk they play something else...at least at our game nights. it's not often people are told "Sit there and play nothing"even that I doubt it a good number, but we can go with that...when you aren't talking you are reacting, taking in info for your character to use later, and still playing. However when you have no character you can play you are doing none of that. but again, even if I play a character who only react every little while, my character is still there, watching and learning...  yes but that minority is literally THE GAME... the example given that started this I have said many times the DM didn't allow any fancy work arounds, and we didn't have pocket electronics...so yes if you have something to do that will allow you to play in some way, it lessens the problem of not being able to play witch is why I said another survivior arrives... he tells you how he was one of 18 survivors who have slowly been picked off...now he/she is alone and just got here... so again "Wow I just got here, lucky for me you guys are here too" yup it took about a month in my example to be freedso again, "Hey we can work around the problem there for there is no problem" I don't...I don't fault you or think your idea of fun is wrong, but it isn't fun for me...  on the other hand funny lets players playing video games (especially onse I suck at) is fun to me. Nobody has a problem with you finding it fun, but you can't expect EVEYRONE to find it fun.me either... however I have seen 30-45 minutes straight of none of it...even entire sessions. SO yes I could sit there wait for Larry to go to the bathroom and joke around, then when he comes back go back to sit quitly. I could if the party splits up talk to the part he isn't running...but since hindsight is 20/20 I can tell you it didn't happened The party didn't split. second or third post I said that I stopped playing the game and that there were a lot of warning signs (and heck yeat this is one) about the DM being bad.</blockquote>

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