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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mercule" data-source="post: 3704557" data-attributes="member: 5100">Pretty much exactly where I'm at.  I've gotten seriously tired of the complexity of all the additional rules for D&D.  At the same time, there are many concepts (Shadowcasters, Binders, various "complete" classes, PHB2 feats, other bits and pieces) that I really want to include.  The end result is that I either allow 5,000 pages of rules or I weed through that many pages and write a coherent doc detailing my inclusions/exclusions.  Of course, I could just use core, but why not use some of the more interesting ideas?Truth told, I was having a conversation this weekend with my wife about which 3E books I wanted to sell/pitch to reduce my potential rules bloat.  Bo9S was pretty high on the list, other than having a player using a Swordsage, which doesn't incline me to believe that I'm going to care for some changes in 4E.If 4E is either more flexible in allowing expanded concepts, significantly reduces my prep time, or (preferrably) both, I'll be switching.  If the chargen is usable offline and is good, that would be a huge motivation to switch.  I generally feel that online-only chargen is a bad platform.  They're free to change my mind, but it's going to have to be pretty freakin' good to do that.The only sure killer that I can think of is if the classic magic system (wizards, clerics, etc.) gets turned into a "per encounter" mechanism in any way, shape, or form.  Making wizards more Bo9S is one of the few things of which I can think that would make the system worse.  Beyond that, it'll come down to an actual evaluation of the specific changes.  Odd rant aside, the announcement of 4E comes at an extremely good time for me.  I'll pick up the PHB in May and start looking it over.  I fully expect that my current game will be over by July (if it doesn't implode due to weight of paperwork beforehand).  I was not intending to continue with 3E after that, anyway (paperwork/prep time).  So, I'll know what I want to do about the time 4E rolls out.  If I'm lucky, I'll even have a chance to run a short nWoD chronicle beforehand and see what the group is interested in.</blockquote>

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