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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 4744920" data-attributes="member: 710">Yes, there is in Germany. it applies to males of age 18 or older. There is a test that checks whether you're fit for duty - physically and mentally. There are several fitness grades, T1 to T7. If you rank too low - or low enough - you are excused and will not be drafted in.f you're the 3rd son or later in a family, you won't be drafted in either.You can decline for moral reasons and than have to do a similar length civil service (e.g. working with disabled, working at emergency services and similar things.)You are drafted in when you finished your school education (basically you're ready for your work or the university).I decided (partially for laziness - if you want to decline and perform civil services instead, you need to find a job for it, and at that time, the civil service was also still a month longer) to do the job.I didn't like it much. Base Military Training was hell for me. I was away from home, away from my girlfriend (my first one!), away from family, and the instructors were all Arschlöcher (pardon my <s>Klatchian</s> German). After that training, we got into our regular units. The job was mostly boring, a lot of time hanging around, a little sports and some sandbag filling and moving, and a few drills. A few points I observed: - You get to know different people than usual. Unfortunately, that mostly meant stupid people or people with mental problems. Not really the kind of experience I want to repeat, but I guess it's good for my life experience.- Firearms are fun to handle if you're just shooting practice targets.- You learn a little more discipline. I am not convinced I needed that.- You earn some money before you start studying. A nice buffer that allowed me to buy decent hardware. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Overall, I am not a fan. I see the theoretical points - attracting new people to the service, ensuring that the military is not isolated from the regular civilian society - but I am not convinced they are achieved. I think the best point is the fact that so many people decline and perform civil services means that there are more cheap workers in that area.</blockquote>

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