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<blockquote data-quote="Nail" data-source="post: 1906364" data-attributes="member: 224"><p>If y'all don't mind, I'm going to skip the "does <em>Silence</em> actually prevent noise" arguement. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> ...still, I'm tempted to stick my oar in......</p><p></p><p>...anyway......</p><p></p><p>As for the power of this spell: This spell is very nasty. Nasty to the point of "always have at least one on hand". As a player of a cleric, I always have the spell; as a DM of NPCs I always have the spell. Why?</p><p></p><p>In many (if not most) places, space is limited. The typical dungeon has rooms....and those rooms tend to be smallish (maybe 40 ft wide/long). With a silence spell, even if not placed on the spell caster, the caster is gonna be stuck in the AoE. Sure, he might be hiding behind his minions, but otherwise he ain't doin' jack.</p><p></p><p>A favorite tactic is to put it on the rogue or monk. A mobile spell-suppression platform! I'm not sure how many times I've completely shut down enemy spellcasters that way. It's ridiculous.</p><p></p><p>Presently, in our game, I've house-ruled it -- I had to: the combats were getting too easy! Spell casters now get a Will save every time the try to cast a spell. If they succeed, they can cast normally ....although the <em>silence</em> effect is still present.</p><p></p><p>Strangely enough, <em>silence</em> is no longer the most used spell.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nail, post: 1906364, member: 224"] If y'all don't mind, I'm going to skip the "does [i]Silence[/i] actually prevent noise" arguement. :) ...still, I'm tempted to stick my oar in...... ...anyway...... As for the power of this spell: This spell is very nasty. Nasty to the point of "always have at least one on hand". As a player of a cleric, I always have the spell; as a DM of NPCs I always have the spell. Why? In many (if not most) places, space is limited. The typical dungeon has rooms....and those rooms tend to be smallish (maybe 40 ft wide/long). With a silence spell, even if not placed on the spell caster, the caster is gonna be stuck in the AoE. Sure, he might be hiding behind his minions, but otherwise he ain't doin' jack. A favorite tactic is to put it on the rogue or monk. A mobile spell-suppression platform! I'm not sure how many times I've completely shut down enemy spellcasters that way. It's ridiculous. Presently, in our game, I've house-ruled it -- I had to: the combats were getting too easy! Spell casters now get a Will save every time the try to cast a spell. If they succeed, they can cast normally ....although the [i]silence[/i] effect is still present. Strangely enough, [i]silence[/i] is no longer the most used spell. [/QUOTE]
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