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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 3579265" data-attributes="member: 2525">Merely looking at an illusion is definitely not enough to get the will save.&nbsp; &quot;Creatures encountering an illusion usually do not receive saving throws to recognize it as illusory until they study it carefully or interact with it in some fashion.&nbsp; For example, if a party encounters a section of illusory floor, the character in the lead would receive a saving throw if she stopped and studied the floor or if she probed the floor.&quot; I think that's pretty clear that merely looking at it doesn't get you the save.See the Rules of the Game - All About Illusions article 2 here:<a href="http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20060214a" target="_blank">http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20060214a</a>And article 3 here:<a href="http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20060221a" target="_blank">http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20060221a</a>The second article explains that to count as studying, it is defined as &quot;...taking an action (which DMs can choose to make a move action since this is an extrapolation of the rules and not an actual rule) to observe an illusion effect and note its details.&quot;&nbsp; Interacting is defined as &quot;... attack it, touch it, talk to it, poke it with a stick, target it with a spell, or do something else that one might do with a real creature or object.&quot;I think it's pretty darn clear that merely seeing an illusion, without taking an action to study or interact with it, means you don't get a will save.And that is how the spell SHOULD work in my opinion.&nbsp; If you create a false wall with a silent image, unless the creature that sees it is familiar with the location and knows the wall shouldn't be there, they are not going to spend time taking an action to study or interact with a wall, they are just going to move around it like the do with all other walls.&nbsp; Give a save every time they see it would really reduce the power of all figment spells.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 3579265, member: 2525"] Merely looking at an illusion is definitely not enough to get the will save. "Creatures encountering an illusion usually do not receive saving throws to recognize it as illusory until they study it carefully or interact with it in some fashion. For example, if a party encounters a section of illusory floor, the character in the lead would receive a saving throw if she stopped and studied the floor or if she probed the floor." I think that's pretty clear that merely looking at it doesn't get you the save. See the Rules of the Game - All About Illusions article 2 here: [url]http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20060214a[/url] And article 3 here: [url]http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20060221a[/url] The second article explains that to count as studying, it is defined as "...taking an action (which DMs can choose to make a move action since this is an extrapolation of the rules and not an actual rule) to observe an illusion effect and note its details." Interacting is defined as "... attack it, touch it, talk to it, poke it with a stick, target it with a spell, or do something else that one might do with a real creature or object." I think it's pretty darn clear that merely seeing an illusion, without taking an action to study or interact with it, means you don't get a will save. And that is how the spell SHOULD work in my opinion. If you create a false wall with a silent image, unless the creature that sees it is familiar with the location and knows the wall shouldn't be there, they are not going to spend time taking an action to study or interact with a wall, they are just going to move around it like the do with all other walls. Give a save every time they see it would really reduce the power of all figment spells. [/QUOTE]

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