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<blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 3580967" data-attributes="member: 3146">My take on it would be that the illusionist telling the party members it's an illusion would be a saving throw with the +4 bonus. It would not count as definite proof. On the other hand, a party member or bad guy making the spellcraft check to recognize the spell as it was cast (DC 16) would count as incontrovertible evidence. (And, if a bad guy made the spellcraft check, he could tell his allies it's an illusion granting an immediate save at a +4 bonus just like the illusionist can do for his allies).Further things that would count as interaction with the illusion:A. Being subjected to attacks that come from inside the illusionary mist where they would not appear to have line of sight. A real obscuring mist would prevent creatures from seeing out unless they were at the edge and were likewise able to be seen.Things that would count as incontrovertible proof that the illusion is such:Entering the cloud or making a melee attack into it. Real obscuring mist is damp and has substance. A silent image of an obscuring mist is neither. (This could be good for the PCs since it means that a lot of them will have incontrovertible proof that the mist is illusionary from the moment of casting).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Elder-Basilisk, post: 3580967, member: 3146"] My take on it would be that the illusionist telling the party members it's an illusion would be a saving throw with the +4 bonus. It would not count as definite proof. On the other hand, a party member or bad guy making the spellcraft check to recognize the spell as it was cast (DC 16) would count as incontrovertible evidence. (And, if a bad guy made the spellcraft check, he could tell his allies it's an illusion granting an immediate save at a +4 bonus just like the illusionist can do for his allies). Further things that would count as interaction with the illusion: A. Being subjected to attacks that come from inside the illusionary mist where they would not appear to have line of sight. A real obscuring mist would prevent creatures from seeing out unless they were at the edge and were likewise able to be seen. Things that would count as incontrovertible proof that the illusion is such: Entering the cloud or making a melee attack into it. Real obscuring mist is damp and has substance. A silent image of an obscuring mist is neither. (This could be good for the PCs since it means that a lot of them will have incontrovertible proof that the mist is illusionary from the moment of casting). [/QUOTE]

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