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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mroberon1972" data-source="post: 387861" data-attributes="member: 5148">More of the same...Actually, Herald, I think we do understand that.  The problem is, only your first reason (we want it that way) makes any differance.  As I said,  The money/people model you are speaking of cannot survive in a world of high magic where someone, somewhere can cast 9th level spells.Let me give an example.  A 5th level wizard spell, Wall of Iron, costs 50 GP to make a wall that is a huge number of tons of pig iron (I say this since it seems fairly easy to break through 3 inches of it.)  Once smelted down into steel, this is worth much more than the original 50 GP!  This is not an error, but a statement of economy.  Who would not purchase wizard iron at a cost the fraction of what it would cost to mine, move, and smelt it?  Saying a wizard would not use it that way is not silly, It's STUPID!  Of course he will do this!  Spell research cost money, Ink costs money,  food costs money!!!  Can you actually picture a poor, destitute mage of high level?  Uh huh...But what about mass production?  Well, you can't mass produce magic items, but you can make a magic item that mass produces a normal item!  A wizard of means (he's rich guys...) has a brother in the city who is an armorer.  He asks, if you can make a Wall of Iron, then why can't you make a Breastplate with a spell.  Huh...  Well, after about 3 moths of research, he makes a new magic item.  5 times per day, over a period of about an hour, it makes a basic breastplate out of steel and spits it out a slot.  It needs some coal to keep the fires hot (elemental fire it too dangerous), and some ore loaded in the top (wall of iron built in costs too much).  It does not use charges, and cannot be moved very easy (several tons weight).  Bound to it is a happy little Azer (sp?) that hammers out the breastplate to the right shape for the new owner.  The Azer has been well paid, and only appears to hammer the breastplate to the needed size, so is free do what it wants the rest of the time...Over time, it makes back the mony spent to make it in the first place, just by freeing the smiths hands...OMG!!!  Mass production.  What can stop it!Lots of angry armor smiths coming for blood...  You see, if a improvment is good for everybody (improved agriculture) then no one complains.  But if it is only good for some and bad for others, the others pick up thier hammers and break the improvment, along with the some...It's in american history guys...  As well as the rest of the world.The problem is, you can never put the Azer back in the bottle... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> Class dismissed!PS:  The first one of you who says a wizard would not do this gets smacked with a fish!  It only takes one!  And there is always a Tesla waiting for his chance at history...</blockquote>

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