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<blockquote data-quote="mroberon1972" data-source="post: 388283" data-attributes="member: 5148"><p><strong>Hi Al!</strong></p><p></p><p>Hi Al!</p><p></p><p>Actually, the number of magic using people does not have as much an impact on this as you would think. Also, keep in mind differing worlds have differing percentages of magic in thier world. I was only giving an example from my worlds. Please excuse the lack of information I gave.</p><p></p><p><strong>Quote: "The assumption made here are that the caster goes all-out 'for the good of society'. "</strong> </p><p></p><p>No, It does not. It never had anything to do with the good of the people. It has to do with a wizard who wants to crank out 5 breastplates per day as a constant source of income. He gives it to someone (as powerful people tend to do... Elvis cars anyone?), and he begins to profit from it. Or the mage has someone manage it for a wage. You get the idea.</p><p></p><p><strong>Quote: "The notion cited that they would be coerced into doing so is even more ludicrous." </strong> </p><p></p><p>Where did I quote this? Or is it someone else?</p><p></p><p><strong>Quote:</strong></p><p><strong>-------------------------------------</strong></p><p><strong>The concept of mass production</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>An effective banking sector</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Some ideas of modern capitalist thinking</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>The availability of technology at cheap prices, available to the masses</strong></p><p><strong>----------------------------------------</strong></p><p><strong></strong> </p><p></p><p>Your argument says we could have never developed one ourselves, since you seem to be saying that they cannot develop one? Also keep in mind another issue: Just because we developed our way (history) does not mean they have to follow the exact same model of development. We did not have living gods and humans weilding magic. Still, all humans tend toward progress as the norm. </p><p></p><p>Quote: <strong>All in all, magic cannot make an industrial revolution alone. It may aid in that end, but until the correct social circumstances are met, I see little chance of magic on its own bringing a world out of the medieval era.</strong> </p><p></p><p>I agree and more. Magic will NEVER bring advancement of technology. PEOPLE do this. Magic is just a set of natural laws of the world. Atomic energy is possible and good (please, no fights over this... It's off the topic.) but can only be made by very powerful groups with very special knowledge. They still happened, even with human nature.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Mr. Oberon,</p><p>"God, I love a good argument!"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mroberon1972, post: 388283, member: 5148"] [b]Hi Al![/b] Hi Al! Actually, the number of magic using people does not have as much an impact on this as you would think. Also, keep in mind differing worlds have differing percentages of magic in thier world. I was only giving an example from my worlds. Please excuse the lack of information I gave. [B]Quote: "The assumption made here are that the caster goes all-out 'for the good of society'. "[/B] No, It does not. It never had anything to do with the good of the people. It has to do with a wizard who wants to crank out 5 breastplates per day as a constant source of income. He gives it to someone (as powerful people tend to do... Elvis cars anyone?), and he begins to profit from it. Or the mage has someone manage it for a wage. You get the idea. [B]Quote: "The notion cited that they would be coerced into doing so is even more ludicrous." [/B] Where did I quote this? Or is it someone else? [B]Quote: ------------------------------------- The concept of mass production An effective banking sector Some ideas of modern capitalist thinking The availability of technology at cheap prices, available to the masses ---------------------------------------- [/B] Your argument says we could have never developed one ourselves, since you seem to be saying that they cannot develop one? Also keep in mind another issue: Just because we developed our way (history) does not mean they have to follow the exact same model of development. We did not have living gods and humans weilding magic. Still, all humans tend toward progress as the norm. Quote: [B]All in all, magic cannot make an industrial revolution alone. It may aid in that end, but until the correct social circumstances are met, I see little chance of magic on its own bringing a world out of the medieval era.[/B] I agree and more. Magic will NEVER bring advancement of technology. PEOPLE do this. Magic is just a set of natural laws of the world. Atomic energy is possible and good (please, no fights over this... It's off the topic.) but can only be made by very powerful groups with very special knowledge. They still happened, even with human nature. Mr. Oberon, "God, I love a good argument!" [/QUOTE]
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