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Silly RAW Question: Spending XP now for XP-cost events in character's history?
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<blockquote data-quote="Lord Pendragon" data-source="post: 1756555" data-attributes="member: 707"><p>That's the nature of the beast. When you're creating a high-level character, you get to ignore the fact that such a character might not have survived up to the level they are. The wizard gets to ignore Toughness, the fighter never has to buy a suit of normal full plate before he can afford the adamantine full plate. And yes, the wizard never has to craft a single scroll.</p><p></p><p>But if you decide to have him craft, for whatever reason, you pay that xp. You're still going to have more xp than you should, since you really would have had to craft a heck of a lot more scrolls to get to where you are.None. I disagree that having a feat means you need to use it. I currently have a bard who (unfortunately, boy did I mess up his choices,) has Dodge, Mobility, and Spring Attack and never uses them. I have a Paladin who's never used Power Attack (took it to pick up Divine Might). Having a feat does not mean you must have used it. But if you do use it, you pay the price.This, actually, is a point I must have missed up above. I don't think I'd allow it, though. The PrC specifically demands crafting, which demands xp. Not gold.</p><p></p><p>Still, on the other side of that, as I said in my previous post, I'd be willing to simply give the other PCs a small bit of bonus xp to offset this entire problem. So my argument here is more theoretical, based on the fact that I do believe you need to pay the xp of any xp-requiring feat/ability you have.Yes, scribing scrolls is part and parcel of being a wizard. So is having less xp than the rest of the party. I created a 12th-level wizard/loremaster in a pickup game a little while ago. He had Craft Wondrous Item, and boy did I ever use it. And I paid the xp for that. Scribe Scroll is no different.</p><p></p><p>As a last note, I understand the point you are making. No, your character isn't still benefitting from the scribed scroll. It's not like a scroll of <em>Wish</em> used to gain an inherent bonus, nor is it like crafting a <em>+6 Headband of Intellect</em>. However, it's still item creation that has a set cost, and that's still one point of xp less you should have, compared to the other PCs.</p><p></p><p>Have you talked with your DM? Is he unwilling to just grant the whole party +5 xp? It seems the simplest solution...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lord Pendragon, post: 1756555, member: 707"] That's the nature of the beast. When you're creating a high-level character, you get to ignore the fact that such a character might not have survived up to the level they are. The wizard gets to ignore Toughness, the fighter never has to buy a suit of normal full plate before he can afford the adamantine full plate. And yes, the wizard never has to craft a single scroll. But if you decide to have him craft, for whatever reason, you pay that xp. You're still going to have more xp than you should, since you really would have had to craft a heck of a lot more scrolls to get to where you are.None. I disagree that having a feat means you need to use it. I currently have a bard who (unfortunately, boy did I mess up his choices,) has Dodge, Mobility, and Spring Attack and never uses them. I have a Paladin who's never used Power Attack (took it to pick up Divine Might). Having a feat does not mean you must have used it. But if you do use it, you pay the price.This, actually, is a point I must have missed up above. I don't think I'd allow it, though. The PrC specifically demands crafting, which demands xp. Not gold. Still, on the other side of that, as I said in my previous post, I'd be willing to simply give the other PCs a small bit of bonus xp to offset this entire problem. So my argument here is more theoretical, based on the fact that I do believe you need to pay the xp of any xp-requiring feat/ability you have.Yes, scribing scrolls is part and parcel of being a wizard. So is having less xp than the rest of the party. I created a 12th-level wizard/loremaster in a pickup game a little while ago. He had Craft Wondrous Item, and boy did I ever use it. And I paid the xp for that. Scribe Scroll is no different. As a last note, I understand the point you are making. No, your character isn't still benefitting from the scribed scroll. It's not like a scroll of [i]Wish[/i] used to gain an inherent bonus, nor is it like crafting a [i]+6 Headband of Intellect[/i]. However, it's still item creation that has a set cost, and that's still one point of xp less you should have, compared to the other PCs. Have you talked with your DM? Is he unwilling to just grant the whole party +5 xp? It seems the simplest solution... [/QUOTE]
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