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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sadrik" data-source="post: 6412412" data-attributes="member: 14506">Ok taking this back to the original question. I think this is a distinction that could be confusing to newer players. They use the same rules as skills but are instead tools and then tack on the narrative tool training to them. I think this is a silly/senseless rule. Feel free to disagree. I don't mind.Cantrips are a tweak that I did not like. It is actually one of the biggest flavor changes from previous editions. 5e feels like older editions except for cantrips. Spamming blasts was not a feature of low level casters. It happened later on with wands, like I said. Were wands over powered, I have made that case before. Trickily, are cantrips overpowered for you... hmm, you seem to think so.So you don't think I am side stepping your wand subsystem remark. Spells will be put into magic items. Yes a subsystem but no it does not impact the validity of if the cantrip subsystem is warranted or not.</blockquote>