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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 5040880" data-attributes="member: 48965">So you know everything your campaign will incorporate from the beginning? No new feats, options, etc. allowed once play begins? If not then "play the game" can and already does mean different things to different people as far as D&D is concerned.  Wrong, both statements are true... but apply to toally different parts of the game. Nothing in your example directly affects my characters combat silo... while in my example I can grab 10 of my soldiers and take them into battle with me, thus affecting the combat silo. Your examples are cleanly within the silo... I'm trying to show you it's never that clean cut because players will think outside the box. As another example there are skills which have combat purposes and do make charcaters more effective in the combat silo.   Why? Since we are getting into definite statements about what there should or shouldn't be a reward for, please expound on why, if I want my character to be the greatest musician ever, why can't I (just like in real life) choose to focus on becoming that to the detriment of other areas?  Brew beer and make a chair? Are we really to the ppoint where we bring out the most absurd examples to debate with... why not stay with the domain silo example instead of going the route of the ridiculous. Also, why do we talk about these instances like the DM is a robot. If I see one of my players has sacrificed combat ability to brew beer or for woodworking (and I'm going to assume that I was just to busy or something to tell him what type of game I'm running), you better believe I'm going to add elements of those skills into many of my adventures. There's also the fact that me not being a robot I can and will extrapolate from those skills so that they apply in a wider range of situations. Perhaps through wood working the PC can identify diffewrent types of wood, knows their locations, what races or tribes frequently use what wood, and so on. But then again I ascribe to the mentality that a DM being able to adapt and individualize encounters for his group is one of his greatest advantages.  Again, what if it doesn't fit my character concept? Better question, why is this needed as opposed to me stepping up, as the DM, and saying what my campaign will be about (whether that entails combat, intrigue, social maneuvering, exploration or whatever) and then my players making appropriate characters? This eliminates every problem you are talking about. What is the advantage of a game designer deciding what is and what isn't important in my game, and inevitably not hitting the mark with some people, as opposed to me stepping up and guiding my players?   Again, so he sits out a portion of the campaign.</blockquote>

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