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Message: <blockquote data-quote="keterys" data-source="post: 5042596" data-attributes="member: 43019">This is fairly shortsighted, unfortunately.1) If the mechanics of a game encourage one behavior over another, they might from the very beginning envision characters that best fit those mechanics. For example, if the system makes it costly to be a master brewer, they might choose not to be one in the first place. 2) They might invest in both fighting and talking, or some other mix, to match their character concept, then as they gain xp advance in whatever seems most convenient and useful as their character concept has been served.3) Regardless of how well they RP, they are still playing a game with game benefits and penalties, so they should obviously create their character knowing about those benefits to at least a certain extent. It's flatly ludicrous to expect someone to ignore how a game works when playing that game and those who do can create situations in which they are potentially a detriment to their party. Depending mostly on the type of campaign, system, and skill of the DM, but a 'good RPer' who is far below average in effectiveness because they are choosing to RP an ineffective combatant or spent all their points on maximizing their backstory skills of being a master carpenter, juggler, and flutist, might in turn make the difference between a TPK or not when running a predone module (which many good DMs do, to pre-empt that objection)</blockquote>