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<blockquote data-quote="Cergorach" data-source="post: 9733115" data-attributes="member: 725"><p>And now you're just trolling! <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="🧌" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f9cc.png" title="Troll :troll:" data-shortname=":troll:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" /></p><p></p><p>AI/LLM can do certain things, other things it absolutely sucks at, and there is no way of really improving that due to how the whole LLM thing actually works. 63 years ago the Jetsons predicted we would have flying cars, but they didn't predict the smartphone... And Elon Musk has been announcing full self driving (level 5) in 1-3 years for Tesla since 2013... AI 'Fans' have been 'predicting' that seriously next year AGI will show up! And Bitcoin will go to the moon! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>Even IF LLMs could write better then any human past/present/future, it doesn't matter. We have put man on the moon, that doesn't mean we have a space base or human cities up there. Just because we put a couple of billionaires into space, does not mean that it's economical to do or even wanted by the general populace in our lifetime. We can have fully automated production lines that make furniture that will outlast the next 10+ generations, but we either buy relatively cheap folded paper products at Ikea or make our selves or pay people to make hand made furniture for extremely high prices. We have very good movies, but way too many people would prefer to watch Big Brother. We have very good literature, but way too many people prefer dimestore novels or pulpy romance novels that they sell everywhere.</p><p></p><p>Foxconn stated in 2011 that they would replace their workers with one million robots in three years. 5 years later in one factory they replaced 60k workers with robots, leaving 50k human workers. We're now 14 years down the line instead of 3 and does Foxconn have a million robots by now? Maybe, but they currently still have more workers then they had 11 years ago working for them...</p><p></p><p>AI/LLM and generative AI is amazing! But it's not "let's replace all humans with AI" amazing, many, many have jumped the gun and are now dealing with the mess or will be dealing with the mess in the future. From chatbots that hallucinate horrible solutions for customers and don't recognize their own products, horribly messy codebases that will have security issues up the wazoo and will eventually implode!</p><p></p><p>And then there's the cost aspect. ChatGPT you can use a lot for free, or you pay $20/month for 'Plus', $200/month for 'Pro'. But they still lost $5 billion. It took Amazon about 7 years before they made a profit, 10 years before they made a consistent profit. But it took Spotify 17 years, Netflix ~10 years. Models are getting more expensive to make and run, they need more/better hardware, while consuming more and more power. The hardware is not keeping up, nor is the power generation. Eventually this bubble will burst, and I doubt that this will happen before Open AI makes a profit.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cergorach, post: 9733115, member: 725"] And now you're just trolling! 🧌 AI/LLM can do certain things, other things it absolutely sucks at, and there is no way of really improving that due to how the whole LLM thing actually works. 63 years ago the Jetsons predicted we would have flying cars, but they didn't predict the smartphone... And Elon Musk has been announcing full self driving (level 5) in 1-3 years for Tesla since 2013... AI 'Fans' have been 'predicting' that seriously next year AGI will show up! And Bitcoin will go to the moon! ;) Even IF LLMs could write better then any human past/present/future, it doesn't matter. We have put man on the moon, that doesn't mean we have a space base or human cities up there. Just because we put a couple of billionaires into space, does not mean that it's economical to do or even wanted by the general populace in our lifetime. We can have fully automated production lines that make furniture that will outlast the next 10+ generations, but we either buy relatively cheap folded paper products at Ikea or make our selves or pay people to make hand made furniture for extremely high prices. We have very good movies, but way too many people would prefer to watch Big Brother. We have very good literature, but way too many people prefer dimestore novels or pulpy romance novels that they sell everywhere. Foxconn stated in 2011 that they would replace their workers with one million robots in three years. 5 years later in one factory they replaced 60k workers with robots, leaving 50k human workers. We're now 14 years down the line instead of 3 and does Foxconn have a million robots by now? Maybe, but they currently still have more workers then they had 11 years ago working for them... AI/LLM and generative AI is amazing! But it's not "let's replace all humans with AI" amazing, many, many have jumped the gun and are now dealing with the mess or will be dealing with the mess in the future. From chatbots that hallucinate horrible solutions for customers and don't recognize their own products, horribly messy codebases that will have security issues up the wazoo and will eventually implode! And then there's the cost aspect. ChatGPT you can use a lot for free, or you pay $20/month for 'Plus', $200/month for 'Pro'. But they still lost $5 billion. It took Amazon about 7 years before they made a profit, 10 years before they made a consistent profit. But it took Spotify 17 years, Netflix ~10 years. Models are getting more expensive to make and run, they need more/better hardware, while consuming more and more power. The hardware is not keeping up, nor is the power generation. Eventually this bubble will burst, and I doubt that this will happen before Open AI makes a profit. [/QUOTE]
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