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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 5845830" data-attributes="member: 2011">I said melee PCs, not every PC.Ask 4E players. Does the Defenders with 10+ healing surges typically run out of surges first, or does the Controller with 6+ healing surges typically run out of surges first? How often are those Defenders going bloodied?Also, how many encounters does one get out of 4E now that monster damage was adjusted? 4? 5? 6? If a groups stops the day once low on healing surges, now many average healing surges were used per encounter? A Defender with 12 surges who is down to 2 surges used up 10 surges in a 4 to 6 encounter day. That means an average of 2 surges per encounter or 75% to 100+% of his hit points. Per encounter.I think that you will find that more people playing 4E have multiple PCs, especially melee PCs, bloodied and melee PCs bloodied more than once per encounter more than they do very few PCs bloodied. But go ahead. Take a poll.</blockquote>