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Message: <blockquote data-quote="drdevoid" data-source="post: 734745" data-attributes="member: 5356">Monk BAB FixGiven the concerns regarding stacking bonuses and the flurry of blows, this is my stab at a fix. I haven't read too many of these ideas so someone may have already suggested this. Here goes:Create a custom BAB which is 7/8ths rounded down. At 20th level that ends up 4 iterative attacks at +17/+12/+7/+2. It's easy it's simple it gets that coveted fourth attack. I feel it also would work for an Alt.Ranger with a d8 HD,a good Fort and Reflex with lots of wilderness abilities as well (though someone in Gen RPG did a great troll about making the Ranger so wildernessy that it's actually a Druid). You can nix the favorable unarmed bonus but still get 4 attacks and even with Ambi/TWF doesn't break having the rule of getting more than 5.Anyway, the other changes are more along the lines of the OA options and work on the much maligned Flurry of Blows and Stunning Attack abilities. Remove Flurry of Blows and replace it with straight Ambidexterity (the character can still take TWF as a character feat) or use it as a bonus feat like in OA. Then either replace or allow subsitution of stunning attack for Weapon Focus: Unarmed Strike or Weapon Finesse: Unarmed Strike. The class is slightly less frontloaded and still has some martial mastery. It also allows for the classic TWF style to work for a swashbuckler monk which is the most logical candidate to me.Now I like the idea of favorable unarmed BAB and would keep it as is (or even combine it with this- though that tips the power level decidedly in the monks favor) but this gives you a way of having a good weapon to hit and a good unarmed to hit while being a little better than a rogue but not as good as a fighter and no need to worry about stacking. The other two can still dish out a heck of a lot more damage at times though.My personal pet peave is the "Monk" weapons. If I take a weapon proficiency- martial or exotic- I want my monk to be good with it. Typically this is for something like a sword or a reach weapon. So what I'd do if you kept the favorable attacks was create a feat that allows a user with proficiency to treat that weapon as a monk weapon and gain the favorable attack progression. Still doesn't break the rule of five unless you are using TWF but so can a 3E Ranger (especially one with Improved and Greater TWF).Fortunately, there is a feat in Quintessential Monk (Northern Staff, Northern Spear prq: BAB +4) that lets you treat 3 of the monk's favored weapons as reach weapons and that takes care of my reach weapon concern Hopefully, 3.5E will give the monk at least one sword. All I'll I need is butterfly sword just like in OA. Honest, that's it that's all I want, just please give the monk a sword!Well, that's the idea. Let me know what you think.Thanks,Joe</blockquote>

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